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#1 LIONHART

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Posted 12 July 2004 - 03:54 PM

Received this email moments ago. It would appear that WE have won this round. Don't relax now, we still have plenty of fighting ahead of us!


Congratulations!

Through your efforts, you have succeeded in killing the best
opportunity that anti-gunners had to extend the ban on roughly two
hundred semiautomatic firearms.

Liberals had intended to offer the semi-auto ban as a "killer
amendment" to class action reform legislation which was considered by
the Senate last week. At first, there was every indication that
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist was going to allow anti-gunners
like Sen. Feinstein to offer the gun ban amendment.

But after you bombarded Frist's office with demands that he prevent
the semi-auto amendment, Frist -- in a parliamentary move that we
suggested -- took steps to procedurally block all "killer
amendments," including the semi-auto ban.

Liberal anti-gunners whined and screamed on the Senate floor, and
threatened to kill the class action bill in retaliation. But we
appear to have won the battle for now, as the class action bill has
been pulled from the floor.

This victory is huge. Compared to the ill-fated strategy used on the
gun makers' protection act (S. 1805) earlier in the year, the outcome
on the class action bill was as good as could be expected in the
poisoned environment on the Hill. Consider the following:

* The best chance for reenacting the semi-auto ban prior to its
September 13 expiration is now dead;

* Unlike the gun liability bill -- defeated 8-to-90 in March after
it was loaded down with "killer amendments" -- pro-business Senators
can still bring the class action bill back up at some later point
during this session;

* Unlike with the gun liability bill, the class action bill did not
offer anti-gun Democrats a week of Senate floor time to promote their
agenda; and

* Those anti-gunners who cynically pretended to support the class
action bill were forced to make a choice between politically powerful
constituencies -- between the pro-business community and the trial
lawyers.

ACTION: Write Senator Frist. Congratulate him on his use of the
rules in connection with the class action bill, and thank him for
preventing consideration of the semiautomatic ban.

You can call Senator Frist at 202-224-3344, or go to
http://www.frist.senate.gov and select "Contact Senator Frist" under
the "About Senator Frist" heading to send a message similar to the
one below.

----- Pre-written message -----

Dear Senator Frist:

Congratulations!

Your use of the Senate rules in connection with the class action bill
blocked the prime opportunity of anti-gun liberals to force
consideration of the semi-automatic ban.

You also saved the class action bill from the same 8-to-90 defeat
experienced by the gun liability bill, and kept it alive to fight
another day.

Finally, you prevented the Senate floor from being used as a campaign
platform for issues designed to defeat you and your party.

In the politically poisoned environment on the Hill, this is as good
as was possible under the circumstances.

Sincerely,


****************************


Did anyone save any Fireworks from the 4Th? I DID!! smile.gif
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#2 Bruce V 21/28

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Posted 12 July 2004 - 04:50 PM

Lionhart,

I contacted Senator Frist and thanked him, I hope everybody else will also. And, YES, the fireworks will be lit tonight!!!!!!Bruce V 21/28
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 04:54 PM

Devlin--
Thanks for keeping us informed about all this. I'll do my part to meet the ongoing battles ahead.
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 05:23 PM

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!....what a job you did Devlin,.. and everyone who called and wrote letters and emailed...I feel so proud of all of us here and...for us...truly the democratic republic process in action (I just couldn`t write `democratic process`)...stay vigilant and see you at the drum buying party in September! Hoorah!!! wink.gif
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 06:52 PM

Thanks to all who have been fighting to preserve and extend the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution! biggrin.gif This is totally relevant to this board, since we are fighting for our right to keep and bear our Tommys, and all other firearms, and their accessories. sad.gif blink.gif We must all continue to be ever vigilant on this issue, or we can kiss this hobby (and our guns) goodbye! cool.gif Best Regards, Walter
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 07:09 PM

I agree completely with you Walter- this BELONGS here. Hardrede, this is YOUR interests too. Don't let some chickensh*t from some posting currently residing in the Where are They Now File sour you. As Ben Franklin once said,
"WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER, OR WE WILL MOST ASSUREDLY ALL HANG SEPARATELY"
this should be posted on the front page of every gun forum in the country- if they don't get us this year, rest assured they'll be back.

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Posted 12 July 2004 - 08:11 PM

Wow!
That feels really, really good!
Battle won, war not over.... will continue on.
Delvin, thanks for the updates and form letter. Will use it right now!
Can anyone say "50 round drum" smile.gif
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 08:21 PM

Fantastic!

We have already had someone confrim that Kahr will start selling 50 round drums.

Hopefully, 100 rounders will be in the future too.

Chris.
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 08:51 PM

DC,
That is roughly the eqivalent of hearing that Ford Pinto gas tanks will be available again.

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Posted 12 July 2004 - 09:12 PM

Oooooh, Pinto. mad.gif My dad traded a 1966 Ford Galaxy and a 1967 Chevelle Malibu for 1974 Pinto wagon the year before I could drive. I hated Pintos until I dated the first girl who had her own car. She drove a Pinto. tongue.gif
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 12:00 AM

Arthur-

Junk this, junk that... your smack is old. Get over yourself. These aren't even available yet, but you are so arrogant to think you already know that these are junk, garbage, etc.

No one wants to hear your opinion on something you know NOTHING about, so can your crap.

Chris

Edited by DC Chris, 13 July 2004 - 12:18 AM.

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Posted 13 July 2004 - 01:56 AM

My WH Drum, bought in '94, has always worked right straight out of the box. I thought only the C drums had problems.
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 04:28 AM

Even if the people at Kahr still have problems with quality control, affecting functionality, the drums can be made to function by P.K. and Merle. blink.gif biggrin.gif Hopefully the price will drop significantly, on all non-Colt drums! smile.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 04:16 PM

Amen, guys, but let's not get premature.

It's not "dead" until September. Right now, it's terminal, but still in force.

That said, getting it into the terminal ward and putting it on death watch are accomplishments worthy of celebration. I'll hoist an extra Collins for us all on this...

Really looking forward to new C-drums and 1927A-5's...
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 05:12 PM

Ding-Dong the witch (Fienstien) is dead! rolleyes.gif
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 06:08 PM

Prices are already dropping on Drums. WH 50Rd "L" on Sturmgewehr for $480.00. Less than $200.00 come September! laugh.gif
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 06:13 PM

I agree with Nedry, I’ll not be ready to celebrate until the date has passed. I believe it will.

If Kerry gets elected you will have a very short window in which to stock up. There are already plans for a nasty bill to be introduced next year. Say what you will, but I’m glad Kahr has L drums ready to ship right now. I doubt if anyone would be willing to invest in the development of C drum tooling if the Demos come to power.

Kerry is running an add here in CO that proclaims him a “hunter” and shows a photo of him with a shotgun- who does he think he is fooling? Makes me sick

God help us; he looks so good on the TV.

Rant off

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Posted 13 July 2004 - 06:50 PM

The last drum I bought, a LEO "Numrich" L drum, was about $163. It didn't work, but the workmanship was nice (finish, fit, and construction). PK, you made it work no problem. It is marked "for export only". I imagine there are tons of these drums stockpiles at Gunparts and Kahr. Will they be able to sell them off the shelf, grind off the "export only", or sell as is?

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Posted 13 July 2004 - 09:59 PM

I for one am glad this idiotic bill is going to die. Although I won't need any drums for my M1, I am glad to see the prices drop. I guess the one good thing about this bill was that it put a major dent in the drive by bayonettings!

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Posted 13 July 2004 - 10:04 PM

Not to mention those senseless "stock foldings" unsure.gif , "pistol grippings" unsure.gif , and "flash suppressings" unsure.gif which have undoubtably killed and maimed millions (in their minds). I know I felt safer when they were banned.
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