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#1 brian

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 08:08 PM

they are airing their story of the hollywood shoot out, AGIAN, tonite.
this is least the 3rd or 4th time this has been on in the last month of two.
with the assault weapons ban set to die in a few weeks, i can't help but wonder if the history channel (not sure who owns it) is trying to set something up. like some kind of public outcry of these dangerous weapons.

is it just me or anybody else see this scenaro(sp)??
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Posted 10 August 2004 - 08:15 PM

Absolutely right Brian! Never let your guard down; there are liberals out there!! blink.gif unsure.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 07:00 AM

I believe that the History Channel is owned by either CBS or ABC. And yes they are very liberal and anti gun. Even though the History Channel plays alot of gun stories, they can be very anti gun. It's just to bad the LAPD were not smart enough to get one AR15 and pop off those 2 in about 10 seconds. But that's a Kommiefornia LA mentality.
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 07:32 AM

When I watch TV, it is often the History cannel and I have never once felt an anti gun bias. In a recent Old West Tech relating to the buffalo massacre, David Carridine ended the show by saying that guns could be used for good or bad and it wasn’t the hardware that almost wiped out the Bison. A decidedly fair comment.

I think the fact that they are willing to air so much time dealing with firearms is a very positive thing. I get annoyed at the “experts” and the errors they make, but my wife feels the same about me. wink.gif

They have a tendency to run the same program for what can only be considered extended periods of time before they move on to something else. They have run the LA shoot on many occasions and I think it only a consequence that it is running now. At least they make a clear point that the police were unprepared and had to rely on the civilian market place for reinforcements (we’re the good guys!). As I remember the program, it dealt mostly with the state of readiness (of lack of) the PD to deal with a most unusual problem and is not anti-gun in nature.

Concerning the AW ban; I am concerned that with congress working over the holiday on the 9/11 commission reforms, the CA bitch will attempt to attach her poison to the must pass bill that will be generated to reform the intelligence community. It is her last, best hope, and an opportunity we did not envision her having. I would encourage you all to write Sen. Frist and demand that he not allow any attachments to the reform bill. That is our only hope because if the AW ban reenactment is attached to a reform bill, it will pass, much like 922(0) did.
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 08:11 AM

To add further to this,..`Mail Call` is about as pro-gun as you get,so I don`t think the History Channel can be labelled entirely anti-gun.
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 11:39 AM

For the record, The History Channel, A&E and ESPN are jointly owned by Disney and Hearst Publsihing. Disney also owns ABC as well as part of E! which it owns with Comcast (formerly part of AT&T)
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 06:16 PM


ATTEND TOWN HALL MEETINGS--
VOICE OPPOSITION TO
EXTENSION OF GUN BAN

Congress is currently on its Summer District Work Period and will be out of session until September 7. That means that the gun-banners will have just a few more working days left to push for an extension of the Clinton gun ban before it "sunsets" on September 13. With time running out, the anti-gunners and their media sympathizers are in a frenzy. They're becoming desperate, and we must remain vigilant against any attempts to reauthorize this legislation. Now, more than ever, it is critical that we remain active!

During this recess, many of your Senators and Representatives will be back home in their respective states and districts. Many lawmakers use this time to hold town hall meetings, where they can report on what they've been doing in Washington, and hold discussions with their constituents. These meetings afford you an opportunity to personally voice your strong opposition to any legislation that seeks to reenact or expand the 1994 Clinton gun ban.

Please contact your lawmakers' district offices and ask when they plan to hold their town hall meetings during the break. If you do not know the number for your lawmakers' district offices, you can use the "Write Your Representatives" tool at http://www.nraila.org/, or call the NRA-ILA Grassroots Division at (800) 392-8683.

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A LOOK AT THE STATES

CALIFORNIA
The California Assembly is planning to act on anti-gun legislation before adjourning on August 31. Unfortunately, a vote could take place any day on the remaining anti-gun bills, so it is critical that NRA members and the pro-gun community voice their opposition. Please contact your Assemblyman and ask him to vote "NO" on the following legislation: SB 1152 would require registration paperwork and fingerprints every time ammo is purchased, AB 50 would ban the sale and possession of .50 caliber rifles, SB 1140 would make it a crime if a minor gains access to your firearm with or without your permission, and SB 1733 would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition at the Cow Palace Fairgrounds in San Francisco. You can find contact information regarding you Assembly members by using the "Write your Representatives" feature at http://www.nraila.org/.

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CONNECTICUT
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MAINE
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Posted 24 August 2004 - 01:10 AM

I just watched the history of AL Qaida, Osama bin Ladin, and the events leading up to Sept. 11, 2001 on The History Channel. Throughout they harp on the Clinton administration's lack of proactiveness (or reactiveness for that matter) which allowed bin Ladin to continue to operate, grow, and conduct attacks with only laughable retribution. I have to say this is almost the opposite of what you will get on the news. What did you get from the 911 Commission regarding Clinton's culpability? Or rather, what did you get from the news regarding this? It was all focused on Bush's 9 months in office and why he failed to prevent it.

Edited by Scouts out, 24 August 2004 - 01:17 AM.

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Posted 24 August 2004 - 10:35 AM

Those who believe the History Channel is anti gun because it is owned by Disney would also believe the Playboy Channel is anti sex if the owners were known to be Pat Robertson and Patricia Ireland. The OLN Channel must also be anti gun since it did a segment supporting gun registration.

You guys shouldn't watch he History Channel while high since it increases your paranoia.

I'm sure the replay of the North Hollywood bank hold up gets good ratings.

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Posted 24 August 2004 - 03:54 PM

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Those who believe the History Channel is anti gun because it is owned by Disney would also believe the Playboy Channel is anti sex if the owners were known to be Pat Robertson and Patricia Ireland.


For once in my life I agree with you. I am sure it will be the last too. smile.gif
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Posted 25 August 2004 - 11:55 AM

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Those who believe the History Channel is anti gun because it is owned by Disney would also believe the Playboy Channel is anti sex if the owners were known to be Pat Robertson and Patricia Ireland


If by stating for the record that THC was owned by Disney I gave anyone the impression that I thought Disney's ownership was in any way indicative of either organizations stand on firearms, you were mistaken.

A while back I was watching E! and was struck by the fact they were constantly showing and re-showing on The True Hollywood Story bios of porn queens Ginger Lynn and Jenna Jameson. And of course Howard Sterns is shown daily on E! and his love of porn stars is obvious.

I did a little digging and found that Disney and AT&T/Comcast are the primary owners of E!. I havent found it yet but I suspect that at least one of the corporations has a connection to the video companys that distribute these ladies videos on DVD or cable.

Its off topic but it is interesting to know who the media owners really are and at the same time not be fooled by their perceived corporate image.

I'd love to see a stockholder bring Ginger and Jenna to one of the annual stockholder meetings to meet Roy's family.


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