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#21 Hawkeye_Joe

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 03:35 PM

Yes.. I'd like to hear the whole story too.. if he had 10 legal C&R NFA weapons, I'd like to know what the raid was after? How did he die? Tell us more ... If yer gonna tell "the truth" as you put it ..then tell the Whole story.
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 06:50 PM

Hardrede, I am in total agreement on the Hitler quote and your mention of the further extension of the Weimar Republic gun law in 1938, by Hitler. cool.gif The democratic idiots of the Weimar Republic, like our own liberals wanted to disarm the populace, so that they could force any changes on Germany that they wished, without fear that the people might legitimately oppose them with arms. blink.gif These democratically elected officials unwittingly helped to pave the way for Hitler, in this way and others. Their intention was to make Germany safer from political extremists (sound familiar). The road to hell is often paved with good intentions. sad.gif See my 1000th post for further reasons why our (U.S.) liberals think the citizens of America don't need guns. mad.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:45 PM

Hawkeye_Joe, to give you your due however, that is something that Hitler could have in fact said, perhaps more likely so in 1938. Check out the following link for some very interesting information and a book written by Stephen P. Halbrook, PhD., J.D. Nazi Repression: http://www.xmission....er-and-guns.htm Regards, Walter
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:46 PM

Never let it be said I'm too stiff-necked to change....

No .. I didn't ask for you to spend any money to substantiate your statement. I asked for the "rest of the story" Paul Harvey. And the rest is a little different than the way you put it forth the first time. To me at least, it sounded like the BATF had raided a NFA weapons collector for some infraction that might have been related to illegal parts and in that raid he had died. And that afterward the son had tried to sell one of his legally registered MG's and had then the guns had been confiscated and destroyed ignoring the fact that the guns were legally registered and transferable to the next of kin. That's the way your story read.. at least to me..


This is strange to me...how could they not know that the guns were not legally on Form 4's? Why did they not check the serial numbers?

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ATF raided the home and took all the weapons. No one was aware that they were Form 4'd and C&R.


This doesn't make sense either:

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ATF did not allow chance to transfer and seized because of unregistered possession.


They were legally on Form 4's. Why would they not let them transfer? Why seize since they were actually registered? If nothing else why not seize until the transfer could take place?

Lucky for who?...The family?? the ATF??

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Luckily no charges.


I'm just confused on this whole thing really... huh.gif

But thanks for clarifying my signature quote..... wink.gif

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#25 Walter63a

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:52 PM

Hawkeye, I like that Benjamin Franklin quote too, but I think I already have too many in my signature. blink.gif unsure.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:53 PM

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Thanks. And do I really need to pay the $10 to get the county to copy the case???? Why is it when "I" post something, I am required to give my blood type and mother's maiden name???
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Submitting your mother's maiden name and blood type would be nebulous info compared to your detailed post regarding your education, work history, political affiliations, and high school sports achievements.

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:55 PM

Thanks Walter.... you could always make them a lil bit smaller and fit more in.. laugh.gif

I just read the link you posted.. "Verrra interestink-a"...thanks for posting it....
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 08:20 PM

You're welcome Hawkeye! cool.gif It takes a big man to admit when he might be wrong and to change. smile.gif I hope not to be a big man too often. laugh.gif Regards, Walter

P.S. I'm glad you like the link! biggrin.gif
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 10:51 PM

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I guess I am confused why you are confused.


Me too..

If you had started the story with ..

" A man died and his son tried to sell one of his registered NFA weapons that hadn't been tranferred properly, so the ATF raided his house and confiscated more weapons that were on Form 4's and C&R's but not bothering to check on the status of these weapons seized them and then not allowing the family to effect a legal tranfer had them destroyed."

I would have not needed the extra info.


It was the Reader's Digest version that was confusing...and your starting the sentence with "BATFE raided a home. Guy died..."

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BATFE raided a home near here. Guy died, had over 10 LEGAL C&R MG's. One of his son's tried to sell one at the local gunstore. Form 4's were in order, but gun store calls ATF. ALL mg's confiscated and melted!


The way you presented it sounded more like "Urban Legend" ..hence the skeptical tone you detected...

I'll be checking out your link now.. on the NFA story..
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Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (hardrede @ Sep 2 2004, 11:57 PM)
Thanks.  The link is on Danbrews www.titleii.com.  It is an excellent resource for Form's 1-10 if necessary.  They are in PDF "fill-in-the-blank" format.  It is an unhappy and common occurence that this happens.


I could go on, but it isn't worth it.  I guess you have to pay the website to be taken seriously, huh Ron???

Wink-wink, and FWIW, the "legalese" is the result of trying to follow the rules, Distinguished Military Graduate in ROTC-Criminal Justice, and a desire to keep this industry alive by being judicious in our actions and comments.

yep it keeps nick in gold rolex watches,and drivin ferrari's..wink!!

its always nice to belong..........

remember everyday above ground is a good day,unless you are a miner!!

and if you ever need a class in chicagoese let me know.

man has this post generated into something it was never meant to be..........somehow "alien"

scary,scary,

take care,ron

maybe it will go on and on and on!!
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Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:12 AM

and all this time i thought az.had good air.........must be all that aroma in sedona..........

and the "alien's" watch the skie's.

well gotta run.and put combat in the dvd and relax......its been a loooooooooong!! week!!wait it's only thursday..

ron
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Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE (hardrede @ Sep 3 2004, 12:16 AM)
LOL, actually, Phoenix air is as bad as Chicago, without the Gary smell!!!  Gotta love Inland and USS and Union Carbide and etc, etc, etc............

I really love going over the Skyway and looking down on the Haz-Mat too!!  Gives it that New Jersey look! tongue.gif


So anyhow, are those stupid Thompson kits ok or not???? I want one but you never really answered the question.  A simple yes would have been sufficient a long time ago! wink.gif

yes they were all okay,and sold out of them awhile ago....and i figure since everybody now seems to have them.why bother.........i am too busy waiting on my new toy.colt m-4 commando and colt m-4 with colt m-203......


i know i know another pony gun..........but alot of fun in the oh and wow!! at the show's.......

and it sure as heck beats airsoft.

and i would not feel comfortable watchin "blackhawk down" without one.or any news channel's out of iraq and afghanistan.....wink!!

take care,ron
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#33 Walter63a

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 04:54 AM

QUOTE (colt21a @ Sep 3 2004, 01:07 AM)
man has this post generated into something it was never meant to be..........somehow "alien"

scary,scary,

take care,ron

maybe it will go on and on and on!!

Yes Ron, it all started with a simple...well as simple as it can be when the "Respected Ron" is involved...wink...Thank-you! blink.gif smile.gif laugh.gif Have a good weekend, Walter

P.S. Yes, simply say Thank-you around here and...you're not in Kansas anymore...bam...you are in big trouble...wink!!! : laugh.gif
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Posted 03 September 2004 - 11:32 AM

i could not imagine if i had posted anything beyond "thank's"

its that urban legend post.......it change's with everyone who read's it and then tell's another,and he tell's somebody.......until it finally comes back to you..

its that phrase i have heard someplace."thompson greed" wink!!

now its 40mm greed...............man!! are those rounds pricey!!

looks like another safe queen, till the apocalalipso....

take care,ron
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