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#1 Hawkeye_Joe

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 10:17 PM

Can you tighten the stock on a 1928 so that it doesn't rattle so much? It is something that should be done by a gunsmith or can an ordinary joe fix it with regular tools and a lil skill?
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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:31 PM

In this instance, perhaps a smith would be the best way to go. Damon does EXC work by the way. http://www.tommygunner.com
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#3 Bob B

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:44 PM

Not sure how permanent this would be, but you could try scraping or sanding the bottom of the stock inlet so the stock slide would recess a few thousandths deeper when tightened. That would cause the wooden "flanks" on either side to bear against the trigger frame bottom and help eliminate vertical play and rocking.

A second possibility would be to measure the vertical play and cut a piece of steel strip or flat spring stock a thousandth or two thinner to exactly fit the "floor" of the stock slide recess, for a fairly good friction fit between the groove bottoms on either side. This shim plate would be pierced to allow operation of the latch, and wouldn't be visible if done carefully.

An alternative fix would be if you had a very heavy parallel-jaw vise (such as the kind used on large milling machines) you could try *carefully* squeezing the stock slide on both sides to reduce the groove width slightly, and file flat any resulting metal displacement. Depends how hard the slide is; with mild steel it wouldn't be difficult to make a small adjustment this way, but hardened or cased steel could be problematic without annealing and re-heat-treating.

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#4 Merry Ploughboy

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 08:26 AM

While frame can be peened (as is commonly done to tighten up loose 1911 frames), as Lionhart suggests Damon's staff can make a very precise fitting new latch slide. My understanding is you contact them regarding the process of sending them your frame and they will measure it and custom make a matching slide.

Good luck.


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Posted 10 October 2004 - 09:54 AM

I had Daemon fit one of his reproduction slides to a Numrich 28 lower I have. It fits very well now. wink.gif

Stock does not bind up when intstalling or removing, but not nearly as much "wobble" as a standard 28 slide. biggrin.gif

Haweye Joe- since your gun is a WH, the stock slide is probably cast. Send the lower to Daemon, and purchase a reproduction slide. For the cost ($125), you won't be sorry. I have one of his reproductions, and it is much better quality (in my opinion) than the two AO (WW2 era) made sllides.

If you send the lower to him, he can fit the slide to the lower.

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:15 AM

It should have some play; it's the nature of the beast. It bothered me, too, so I cut a small rectangular piece of neoprene rubber (about 1/8" in thickness) that is now fitted between the back of the receiver and the slide. No rattling, no permanent modifications that can't be undone, and it can't be seen. When I field strip the gun (M1928A1), the little pad falls out, and is replaced when reassembling the gun.
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:21 AM

Hmmmmmm...

Kinda like the wedge you can buy to tighten up an AR15 upper/lower fit??



I LIKE THE IDEA!!! tongue.gif

Now if I could just find my stash of urethane....

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:42 AM

Thanks for the quick replies guys.. The two about getting a new one from Damon and the lil rubber wedge sound best. Do I have to send my old one off to be measured or can I just order one and install it? I was thinking about the "peening" like a 1911 but that is what I was worried that I wouldn't be able to do right...
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 11:09 AM

Personally, If I find myself trying to do anything to my Thompson that requires using a hammer, I seek the advice of a pro gunsmith. ohmy.gif

Trying the rubber buffer sounds cheapest and easiest. If that doesn't float your boat, you may want to try sending it to Daemon.

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 11:42 AM

Hawkeye..It would be best to send your Frame to Damon, that way he can give you a Slide that has been custom fitted. He did this for me, and it turned out GREAT!
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 01:29 PM

I'd hoped I wouldn't have to have the gun "down" for any length of time, but I guess that a non-stocked Tommy can still be fired so what's the harm.

I'll contact Damon on turnaround time.

I see that he asks about screws....should I include the screws to be examined?


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Posted 10 October 2004 - 01:45 PM

Yes, you should, and don't worry, I don't think Damon will lose them! smile.gif
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 03:21 PM

Hawkeye Joe,

One of our slides should do the trick nicely. If needed you could send us your frame and we can fit up a slide directly to it for the best fit possible. The total cost either way would be $125 plus $5 shipping. This way you could try the slide first and send it out only if needed. Shouldn't take more than a week or two to fit one up though. Let me know if I can help you.

Lionhart, Norm...Thanks a bunch! I am really glad you guys are happy with your stuff! biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 06:38 PM

I replaced my GI 28 stock slide with one of Damon's and there is no way I could ask for a better fit.

I plan to order another!
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