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#1 Hawkeye_Joe

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 01:36 AM

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WW2 M1A1 Thompson Display Gun This magnificent piece of history was carefully put back together from a torch cut demilled parts set into a great M1A1 display gun. All parts are WW2 and the back half of the bolt functions. The chamber is welded shut, barrel welded to the frame, front section of the bolt is welded to the bolt cavity. It cannot ever chamber or fire anything. The magazine has been permanently deactivated to comply with eBay regulations. The bolt handle can be locked back and the trigger pulled just like the original firing model. The condition is excellent and retains most of the original markings except where the torch passed through. Sling is not included.


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#2 anticus

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 01:17 PM

Put together from demil receiver parts ? This can't be legal......
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 03:19 PM

Don't know why not its still quite demiliterized to say the least. WHat would be the charge? Assembling what, a..... bunch of metal... as it certainly can not be defined as making a firearm even if one could be used to threaten someone and result in a charge ag assault- that is about it to me but I was wrong once.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 05:42 PM

Don't know. That same seller sold a '28 for around $2000.00 last year. Same setup as his M1. IMA does offer a few of their WW2 Display Guns with welded up cut Receivers. They claim there ATF legal. Besides all that, even IF one were to get this Dudes M1 working, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the first one firing it....
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 06:13 PM

Ok.. he sold that one on the 17th and added another listing for what looks like the same gun on the 20th on Auctionarms.......I wonder if this is a BATF sting??????? dry.gif

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Posted 22 December 2004 - 07:51 PM

Look at the sellers name. Must be a sting!!
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 08:08 PM

I don't think it's a sting. This guy has been on for some time and generally has quite a bit of neat stuff, most of it demilled.
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 08:49 PM

He's been using the same picture of the Thompson for 5 years that I can remember. I think he has one or two good pictures and just uses those. He has been around for some time and not changed the name so I would say he's on the up. Of course his prices for these are on the going up as well.
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 08:53 PM

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He's been using the same picture of the Thompson for 5 years that I can remember.


So he's got an endless supply of these that he's making up? That seems a little far fetched to me. I looked over his site and I see nothing about Thompsons .. only other antique and collectable weapons.
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 11:19 PM

He use to sell these on Ebay when you could. That is where I first saw them. And on Auction Arms.
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 11:24 PM

Could be a Sting Operation. Don't really know, but one CAN'T be to careful. Bottom line is, if in doubt, do without. Sort of reminds me of what happened on this very Forum a few years back....
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Posted 22 December 2004 - 11:29 PM

Here's his website. It's the Thompson link, but hit home and see his other stuff. He even gives his name and address on there. Well it's a P.O. box.

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Posted 23 December 2004 - 12:35 AM


I Have dealt antiques with Jim for a number of years. He is not a sting operation. His display guns are quite high quality,and would take about as much work to reactivate as milling out a Philadelphia Ordinance receiver.Are they LEGAL??. I don't know. I think that BATFE's line to cross is quite fluid,and would have to be determined on a case by case basis. Would I buy one?? NOPE! Got too much to lose to be the test case. I do not feel,however,that Jim is trying to deceive or intentionally break the law. He interprets his method of rewelding the front of the receiver into a solid block as being BATFE compliant. BTW,I have handled one of these display guns,and the front round section of the bolt is cut off and welded into the barrel and ejector port.The next 3" or so of the receiver is solid steel,then the rear section of an m1 bolt travels in a channel about 4" long. The height of the bolt and the depth of the channel have also been reduced from original dimensions. Pretty cool! They sure ought to be legal. Also,he does use a stock photo for his displays. Probably not a good move.People need to see exactly what they are buying.

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Posted 23 December 2004 - 12:38 AM

CORRECTION: I meant to say the rear bolt section has a free travel of about 4".
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Posted 23 December 2004 - 03:59 AM

Philohio,
Good eye! The front of the receiver is a little wider.Would it not be cool to replace the bolt section with a Co2 powered reciprocating plunger with the valve tied into the trigger.It wouldn't be hard to rig that to shoot the old style Mattel green roll caps.What an awesome re-enactment toy that could be!Fun to dream. Wish we didn't have to be so afraid of our own tax supported government when all we want is some harmless recreation.

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