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#1 Kevin

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 08:58 PM

Got my Khar L drum today. It will have to go to Merle. Absolute junk. PK was right, some are ok others are bad. I just got unlucky. sad.gif
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Posted 17 January 2005 - 11:15 PM

ohmy.gif I am keeping my fingers crossed for mine.
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Posted 17 January 2005 - 11:38 PM

What`s so bad about it? Haven`t tried mine but it looks identical to my other good one...
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Posted 17 January 2005 - 11:55 PM

kevin--
Did you actually try it out?
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 10:34 AM

I just got my drum. The thing that I note right off is that the drum won't securely catch in place. I put it in my 28 and you can push it in, hear it click in place, and then continue to push it through without depressing the mag catch. Anyone else have that problem? I compared it with my bridgeport drum and the slide detent is more sustantial on the bridgeport
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 10:36 AM

After fiddling with it for about 3 hours I got it to the point where the rounds would slide around the tracks without hanging up. With the cover off and the spring wound the drum will feed ok. However when the cover is installed the drum locks up and the rotor will not turn. I'm afraid the cover is too small.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 04:30 PM

Just another Moonie scam - they should have stayed in airports, and selling Elvis on velvet door to door. There has never been any intention to sell a quality product.

It has always been interesting how many people will keep going back to be scammed time after time.

Willing to accept their crap knowing it may have to been sent off to someone to be made workable. biggrin.gif

Be sure to get your names in early for the C drums - they need your money biggrin.gif

As long as you accept the drums and don't sent them back for full refund this will continue and the product will never improve. biggrin.gif

This points out how many people want thompson items even if they don't work - all they have to do is look like a thompson item.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 05:49 PM

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion Ron, but people on a very tight budget like myself think its a deal to get the new drums at this price...even if I have to pay a little extra to get the drum worked on (which I don't, I tried my new drum today and it worked fine) it still beats paying $600 or however much Bridgeport etc. drums are going for these days.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 06:32 PM

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But people on a very tight budget like myself think its a deal to get the new drums at this price...


I don't think Ron intended to offend anyone. It may or may not be a "Deal", considering how much time and money is required to make these Display Drums functional. Some may work fine now, but what about later? For what Kahr is selling these for, they COULD produce good functioning Drums, but until more people complain, Kahr will continue producing goods that require additional expense to make right. I think we would all love to be able to purchase good QUALITY Drums now that we have waited 10 years for the Ban to end. Unfortunately, this just isn't the case.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 07:03 PM

I agree with Ron A and Lionhart. For $250.00 the Kahr "L" drum should be of the same quality as the WWII drums.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 07:33 PM

Nor do I feel it's appropriate for individuals to get these Drums repaired by a third party for additional costs. You PAID for a NEW Drum. It SHOULD work as intended. If one receives a POS, send the God damn thing back, and make Kahr responsible in sending you one that WORKS! If they send out another POS, send it back again, until they make it RIGHT! Kahr does reimburse Shipping Expenses..There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of shit. I've already been contacted by pissed off Folks complaining of numerous problems. If you folks don't say anything to the Manufacture, they will continue to produce this kind of CRAP! Box the Junk up and send it BACK!
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 07:41 PM

Lionhart's right in that. Until they start getting these P'sOS back to repair or replace they will continue to produce crap. Send it back... mad.gif

This is why I had to laugh at Liberator's use of Khar and Quality Control in the same sentence..they have none. He's happy to have his M1 Tommy , even though the forearm's wrong, the rear sight is falling off, the front sight is rotating, and the safety has lost a part. .but to quote him..
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All in all, for less than 1/10th the price of the real deal, I got a damn fun little Thompson!


BULLSHIT!! for the price he paid for a SBR Thompson it should do as well as a Browning or a Kimber..and not fall to fuck apart when he shoots it.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 07:57 PM

I'm really, really, really, confuZed.... I posted that certain knowlegable people had very strong feelings about the new drums prior to "the big buy", and was requested to hold my thoughts as they were second hand etc. Ok Fine I did that, and then when they did start shipping all I read was glowing positive feedback, making me think that I was in fact posting unreliable info. Now this thread is saying the opposite.... Am I redeemed, or am I still a blasphemer?
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:39 PM

I'd say your are a redeemed blasphemer laugh.gif
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:36 PM

just got mine today,it works fine. biggrin.gif
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:58 PM

Yeah, but for how long? This is what I mean. I'm not going to trust or rely on anything that these folks produce...One minute it may work, and the next it doesn't. The Winding Key might jump off. The Spring may come unraveled. The Cover might explode..No thanks. If I were you 427sohc, dump several hundred or a thousand or more rounds through it. If the old Colt and WW2 Drums keep pumping the lead out after thousands and thousands of fired rounds, I'd expect a new one too.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 12:48 AM

Received mine today and have the same problem with very poor engagement of the magazine catch. On closer examination I discovered that (on mine at least) the front and rear plates are not positioned properly, making either the front mounting rail a little low or the rear rail a little high. This makes the drum angle slightly forward (away from the front surface of the stick-mag slide), so that the magazine catch just barely engages. Didn't even try to cycle ammo through it to check the tolerance of the spiral guides. Doesn't look too bad otherwise (cosmetically) apart from the kinked winding key which apparently had been badly bent in two places and very amateurishly straightened. Back it goes!

This is in no way a reflection on PK, who as far as I'm concerned went "above and beyond" in taking the time and trouble to put the group buy together. We knew the risks we were running with Kahr (but that doesn't let them off the hook). We paid for working drums, not movie props!
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 11:26 AM

For what it is worth, I got mine yesterday from the group buy and then started reading this thread. I have a "pre-ban" West Hurley that I have dumped many times without one single hiccup. I decided to get both out and compare, without the use of micrometers. The parts intercahnge between manufatures and decades. The overall finish of the Kahr drum is better than the Westy and both fit identically in the receiver. I have not run it yet but do not see why it should be a problem compared to the Westy. I also paid several hundred dollars less thn I did almost two years ago for the coveted "pre-ban" NIB. ohmy.gif

All of that said, if I received a goofey one...it would be on the next big brown truck to Kahr, still with thanks to PK for his hard work on our behalf. smile.gif
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 12:41 PM

I found this on the links page at the Kahr Arms website.
Speaks volumes. wink.gif

"Drum Doctor
E-mail link for Thompson drum magazine repairs.
Contact person: Merle Bitikofer"

http://www.auto-ordn...m/ao_links.html
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:15 PM

From what I've heard, Merel doesn't want anything to do with the New Kahr "L" Drums...And if that's the case, I don't blame him.
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