Posted 02 February 2005 - 11:48 AM
Indeed, some Remington butt stocks didn't leave the factory with an anchor, just as some Colt TSMG's left the factory without a "JHB" stamp. So you might still have an authentic Remington stock. Do the numbers on the butt plate match the butt stock? Are there any numbers marked on the slide? Is the slide latch nickel?
There is no public record of when this PD originally purchased this weapon from Auto-Ord. Judging by the other sales of Colt's in this serial range, even though they were not sold in any particular order, it seems likely it was sometime between 1928 and 1934. Since this Colt was in the PD's armory for 50 or 60 years, and only in private hands for 15, it could well be of original finish. Apparently this PD resisted the advances of Cox, Earl and other dealers combing Texas for TSMG's back in the 1960's and 1970's. But again, when an officer took this gun out (one of at least four Colt's the department owned and they may have owned WWII TSMG's as well) for shooting or cleaning, he could have substituted a butt stock from a Savage TSMG that was disassembled at the same time for the Colt one. The scenarios are endless.
This is why GH's accountability of where these Colt TSMG's (even if the book has less than 3000 of the 15,000 covered) have been over the last 80 odd years is very valuable. When a seller has a serial number that has been MIA since 1921/22, any story can be fabricated to suit the price tag. Had your seller checked these reference books before resorting to apocryphal hyperbole, he would have discovered that a Colt TSMG that was still the property of the original PD purchaser up till 15 years ago, is a better story.
G.I Jive raises the question as to whether a a TSMG owned by a PD for most of it's lifetime would be in a better preserved condition than a PD TSMG that was in the possession of several private parties since the 60's or 70's. I imagine that would depend on the individual PD and how much use the TSMG had back in the 1920's and 1930's when the weapon would have been handled the most.
Of course, depending on the PD"S chief's, any officer could have taken the weapon out of the vault for target practice at any time up to the point of sale. Judging by the look of the riot guns in PD cars, protecting the cosmetics of the weapon are not high priority. Civil servants that don't own their PD'S Colt TSMG were no doubt more inclined to be indifferent to kid glove treatment of the weapon than a private collector.