Help Id Thompson Parts Kit?
Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:56 PM
What is the kit worth? Thanks in advance.
Posted 08 February 2005 - 05:49 PM
Posted 08 February 2005 - 08:33 PM
You got a 1928 parts kit. No lyman rear site so $900 for the parts kit plus the dummy receiver. Dummy could range from $150 to $500 plus depending upon who made it and if its aluminum or steel.
Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:38 AM
Posted 09 February 2005 - 10:49 PM
Posted 10 February 2005 - 09:51 AM
|QUOTE (Roland @ Headless Thompson Gunner,Feb 9 2005, 10:49 PM)|
|The internals looked NOS but the lower frame had the serial number scratched out and re-stamped and then another serial number scraweled in, in very light scribe?|
That was common on rebuilt guns that had new grip frames installed. The frame was then renumbered to match the receiver it was placed on. Apparently, this practice was discontinued on later rebuilds. It was probably only done on the earliest rebuilds. Many of the 1928 parts kits available lately have the grip frame number crossed out and a new number inscribed. I believe these guns were rebuilt Lend-Lease guns that were completely refurbished before shipment overseas. My raeson for thinking this is that the finish is the black oxide type that was consistent with the factory originals. I suppose they could have been rebuilt overseas, as some theorize, but the barrels and compensators are usually NOS and look unfired. To me, this indicates that the guns were placed in storage and never used. The mismatched grip frame and subsequent renumbering would be indicative of a US rebuild and shipment of a refurbished gun. That would also explain the the NOS looking internals. The finish wear on the frame and dings in the wood are probably just from long term storage.
Posted 12 February 2005 - 07:35 PM
The only part that is not so "new" looking, that I can tell, is the barrel. It has some light surface rust and pitting near the wood handguard? areas, and although the barrel looks mirror and the grooves looks good, there is a "ring" about 1" behind the compensator? It's really hard to tell unless you look very closely down the muzzle of the rifle.
One of the old collectors told me it's okay and should still be okay to shoot but it's more of a shooter grade barrel than a collector piece. The ring is created by 2 rounds hitting eachother and expanding? He said that's common. Is that right?
Posted 16 February 2005 - 11:50 PM
Wait you think a bullet moving lets say 600 fps at the point, is going to stop bcause the gas will go around it? If the barrel is cut off right there do you think the bullet would just drop to the ground? Nice theory but your thinking is just a little off I believe... It may effect the velocity a bit but nothing that you could tell without a chrono, if then...
Posted 17 February 2005 - 06:07 PM
Posted 17 February 2005 - 08:29 PM
Well as a matter of fact I used to put 9MM bullets in my .357 Automag all the time because I wanted the light weight and more speed, and those bullets would create hellaious velocity... They certainly did not pfft out the barrel...... I'm sure someone has done testing on this maybe Ackley or someone....
Until you can prove otherwise I say your line is outa line...
Second to Last post.....
Posted 18 February 2005 - 02:41 AM
|QUOTE (gijive @ Feb 10 2005, 07:51 AM)|
That was common on rebuilt guns that had new grip frames installed. The frame was then renumbered to match the receiver it was placed on. Apparently, this practice was discontinued on later rebuilds. It was probably only done on the earliest rebuilds. .
Maybe that explains the S-17175 that is lightly scrawled onto my Colt lower, SN 12571. between the Colt SNnumber and the grip, though the original SN was not over stamped.
I would be curious to know where 12571 was betwenn 1921 and the time I received the lower.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:12 PM
LOL you got that right... Since we're counting teeth, how many times have you "personaly seen" a bullet stuck in a barrel caused by a bulge? You don't have to be exact... 5 times? 10 times? How many times have you even "heard" of such a thing happening? You did all the testing give the results on bullets lodged in the barrel.....
9mm is .355 and 38 is .357 btw... As far a bullet speed, I guess the chrono could have also been wrong... And your exact statement was.... "Sometime, try shooting a bullet that is about .002" less than bore diameter in any revolver...or pistol. It will go pf-f-ft, and it may or may not go all the way out the muzzle." Which is just plain b.s.. Talk about counting teeth.... LOL But I will concede that accuracy was diminished.....
I give you real life situations, and you just mock me and say I'm and idiot and tell me of your expertise? Post again when you have "actual" evidence.......
Posted 19 February 2005 - 12:08 AM
I guess to be on the safe side I'll call this barrel for "display/dummy" gun use only if I put it up for sale. Just want to get enough information so I can at least describe this kit correctly.
Thanks for the input guys.
Posted 19 February 2005 - 04:28 PM