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#21 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:40 AM

Sig,
You seem to be staunchly defending the notion that spare parts boxes are not supposed to be sold for under $6K since they are incredibly rare and desirable. But recent transactions just do not validate your assumption. Did you contact the seller in an effort to buy the box, or advise him he was selling it too cheaply?

The box on ebay was advertised for 11 days with nearly a 1000 hits on it, yet only one weak-kneed buyer waited to the last day to eschew the ridiculous "Buy It Now" figure and committed to the $3750 figure. So where was the stampede of collectors to obtain this piece? Or maybe you don't think real "collectors" tune in to ebay? The ebay ad was also posted here. Does this board attract "true" TSMG collectors?

To now "explain" Galati's $2K price for the box (and the case and rod also?) as merely a trial balloon to see the amount of response he would get from his ad, may indeed have been the unintended result of the calls, but don't tell me he was "ignorant" of what the box was worth in the first place. He still wanted $2.4K for that case with the staples going through the back end and new hardware. Where is the "under value" in that monstrosity?

Apparently Galati is also confident that he can easily find another box at the Creek in order sell it to Jerry P, the first caller on the box, and among the several people he stiffed. DO you see this optimism about locating another box as "ignorance" also, or merely just another of his bullshit tactics?

So now Galati is going to "sit" on these accessories and wait for some imaginary enlightened 'true" collector to step up to some secret figure. Since his ad appeared on Sturmgewehr and here, who the Hell do you think the buyers were who called him? Since you were hot on the trail of the box, do you consider yourself not among the "true" collectors?

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#22 Sig

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 12:34 PM

Arthur
I will buy everyone of the $2,000 original spare parts kits you have.
Just email me and I will overnite funds.
I never mentioned a price over $3,750, I asked you what the price had fallen from, meaning I did not think $3,750 was cheap.
Enough already. If you believe Frank was desperate to sell at $2,000 because he could find no buyers at a higher price, so be it. I for one don't believe it.
Doesn't make you wrong or right anymore than me.
I shared my opinion plane and simple. Obviously you didn't like it.
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#23 TD.

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 12:58 PM

Interesting post all the way around. Quick question: Is there any doubt as to the authenticity of the small parts box (not the contents) offered for sale by Galati?

It appears philasteen purchased the small parts box from Galati. Anyone on this board have any doubts about what philasteen posted?

It appears snipershot1944 purchased the cleaning rod from Galati. Anyone on this board have any doubts about what snipershot1944 posted?

Sig, another regular on this board who actually has done business in the past with Galati, states that he will do no more business with Galati as a result of this advertisement.

The posts by philasteen, Sig and snipershot1944 speak volumes to me about the reputation of this seller.

The debate by John, Jr. Arthur and Sig about the worth and price of the small parts box is fantastic. Keep it up – this is one of the things that make this board so interesting and great.

One thing I do not understand is why Galati posted these pieces at the prices offered in the first place. It seems quite unlikely he would not know the desirability of these pieces. However, I never spend time trying to figure out what is going on between the ears of sellers who have less than a sterling reputation. Experience has taught me that honest and less than honest people have much different thought patterns and it is impossible for either type of seller to figure out what makes the other type tick.

fullauto45 – If we see each other this spring at the creek, please point out Galati to me. I would like to have a face to go with the reputation.

Thanks for all the posts. I would bet many people will save money in the long run because of what you have posted.


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#24 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 01:28 PM

Sig,
The responses to your thread were based on your own reporting that the box sold for $2K. Naturally, you had already contacted the seller with your own offer to buy before posting the ad and the update on the sold box. But we must now dismiss this price since this was all a charade and the deal was too good to be true? The last advertised selling price for an empty box, that I am aware of, was $3750. That sure looked like a precipitous drop in value to me.

You consider a $2K price tag for this box/parts to be an act of desperation? Seems that he had exactly the right price in that he got action from several interested parties. If he advertised it for $2.5K would you still have called? How about $3K? We now know that interest in this accessory drops off severely when the price approaches $3K. So exactly how much more profit do you see him making above the $2K figure? Is this mystery figure worth his now obliterated reputation as a principled seller? But the real rub is that the box's widely advertised selling price of $2K, whether the deal was ever consummated at that figure or not, will effect the next box that someone tries to off for over $3K.

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#25 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 06:33 PM

I doubt DR's drums will impact the value of the Colt Numbered, NO, and blank drums. They are part and parcel of the functioning part of the TSMG and they have direct lineage to the Colt TSMG. Did the two or three guys who now make repro FBI/Police cases affect the price of 1930's made cases? The prices of the "original" cases that do not bear the makers tag of one the original companies seem to have been affected by the introduction of the repro cases.

If there are some out there who would gladly pay more than $3700 for a parts box, they must not be too vigilant since they had ample opportunity to do the "Buy It Now" option or even bid against the one successful buyer on ebay.

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#26 Sig

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 07:09 PM

A little chatter between JP and I. Not sure who Eric FXX is but seems my bet that the kit would never ship seems to be a bad bet.
I loved Jerry's comment suspect something fishy! Oh well we may never know.


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I Know the guy real well that will end up with the kit. His name is Eric FXX. I suspect something fishy involved but not sure what. I called Eric and he swore that he did not offer more money for the kit. I also suspect the kit may be bogus. frank and I talked for about one half hour. I told him that I've been dealing in machine guns for 27 years and that I have an extensive thompson collection. It could be that, if the case is not right, he figured that i would be able to detect that and he would end up getting it returned. Than he sold it to someone else. Eric MAY end up with a bad item and not get his money back. God works in strange ways!..Jerry
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#27 Dave Janowski

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:28 PM

Hey!!!!

I have a like new COLT ejector and a PARTS BOX!!!!

I will sell it as a set for 5k!

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Dave
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