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#1 ronmann

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 10:34 PM

hello everybody.im new here and wanted to ask a question.Im planning on buying a new kahr 27 a1 and i wantedto shorten the barrel to an oal of 16 wth the comp.has anyone here done this?if so I was wodering if some one would post a pic so i could see what it looke like,thanks Ron Mann.
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 10:56 PM

Damon over at Tommygunner does it. Click on my link below under 1927 Makeovers.
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Posted 18 March 2005 - 02:36 AM

This has been a subject of at least 50 prior posts
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Posted 18 March 2005 - 12:44 PM

I was just wondering if any one had a pic.thanks
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Posted 18 March 2005 - 12:55 PM

Here's a pic of one converted the way you want...

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 04:34 PM

WOW,that looks nice.thanks.I'll bet that would look sweet with a drum.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 03:08 PM

the shorter barrel will get you by......for now.
soon enough though you'll *need* an SBR.
that would be where i'm at now, just need to fill out the forms.

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 07:29 PM

Ronman,
Both Damon at Tommygunner and PK do this wonderful deed.
I highly recomend it!
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 08:32 PM

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They would look even shorter if a ring site were used.

The stock came out shiny as the wood is WWII and very hard. The finish is only stain and linseed oil.

The photo is with a 10.5" bbl.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:13 PM

thanks guys.those guns look great!I cant believe the difference 2'' makes.im going to have to settle for the 16'' setup.I dont think i can get the sbr in NY.hell,you have to wait 2 years for a pistol permit.thanks again for the pics,and if you guys got more post them,please.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:18 PM

ronmann,

Its a shame that NY has such asinine laws. From the posts I've been receiving from the NRA/ILA its about to get worse.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:33 PM

greycrow, what is a ring site?but some of the laws work good,for instance since they passed the one banning mags over 10 rds.i cant remember the last time i heard of anyone getting shot in a drive by more then ten times.So i guess that one was effective.also since the banned saterday night specials the local criminal element carries much nicer weapons.if I have to get mugged and shot by some"gangsta"i guess id rather get popped with a classy gun rather then some piece of shit.,so i guess you have to take the good with the bad.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:54 PM

The ring site is like the style used on the 21 and M1 Thompson's, no Cutt's compensator.

The last post from the NRA/ILA indicated that they plan on adding more guns to the assult rifle list. Lets hope it dosen't include the 27A1, like so many of the other lists have done. Also that they will allow pre owned semis to be grandfathered. It seems that there are a few states that do want to add the 27 to their list and make yearly registration and a fee, part of the law. PA attempted to write such a law but for now it was defeated.
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:59 PM

Ronmann... tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Glad to see another person stuck in NY that is not fooled by the BS laws we have. Where bouts in NY are you?

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 10:47 PM

damon.im in utica I talked to you last week.im going to call you soon to order mine.if they ban a rifle will there be a grandfather clause like with the magazines.I found this site after i talked to you,its great!

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Posted 20 March 2005 - 12:15 AM

Ronman,
Yep, all is grandfathered at the moment, the key being "at the moment".
Welcome to the club that a few of us like Damon and Walter living in "New York no-gunland" belong to.

Keep in touch with what these nut's here in NY are up to, they don't give us a minutes
rest attempting to outlaw anything that could be used as an assault weapon, including
pencils that may be shorter then 3 inches and highly sharpened! dry.gif

I'm sure the Thompson semi's will be added to any new list. they seem to be on every other one. Just the pistol grip and detachable mag are a death warrent.
Write your local reps and keep writing.
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Grew Crow, I don't think that you can shorten a barrel with a ring sight, being that it is allready 16 inches. The thing that works with welding the Cutts Comp. to a 2 inch shortened barrel is that you are going from 18" ( original 16" barrel with the 2" comp. screwed or glued on) to 16" overall by cuttting 2" off the barrel and permanently making the Comp. part of it.
Beautiful funiture on your gun!
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Posted 20 March 2005 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE (Zamm @ Mar 20 2005, 12:15 AM)


Keep in touch with what these nut's here in NY are up to, they don't give us a minutes
rest attempting to outlaw anything that could be used as an assault weapon, including
pencils that may be shorter then 3 inches and highly sharpened! dry.gif



wow you guys can't even have SWP's(short wood pencils)? i suppose permanent markers are a no-no as well?
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Posted 20 March 2005 - 09:49 AM

Zamm,

Your right about the movement of the comp., the 21/M1 style ring site would do nothing to shorten the appearance of a 16" bbl.

Does NY have any provision that would allow one to make a SBR if OK'd by the ATF? Seeing that at the time of this writing the Thompson isn't on the assault rifle list.

I guess the trick would be getting a LEO to sign off on the project first.

It to bad they can't make a national gun law where its all legal. << Nice dream!

Thanks for the comments on my hardware. I need to take some new photos with the non-crossbolt stock on it. Right now its just in a display case with a bunch of other Thompson parts.
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Posted 20 March 2005 - 11:12 AM

Grew Crow,
NO SBR availabilty in NY State.
Nada, nothing. No provisions for anything NFA at all, (Only Class II manufacturers, guess the state can make a buck or two on those folks!)
We are surrounded by 3 states that have full class III ( if i remember correctly), and here we sit, with some of the craziest gun laws on the books!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

My thoughts completely with a Fed. Law. One bloody law to cover everything.
Problem is it may damm well be the wrong law sad.gif
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Posted 20 March 2005 - 06:07 PM

the problem is there are too many wannabe dictators.they want to tell us what to do,what to think etc,etc.they probably go for guns because there an easy target,but there getting around to other things,smoking seatbelts(if I DECIDE I dont want to wear a seat belt its a $100 fine!? for my own good).they will get around to other things.the problem is we get these politicions that are grandfathered in for ever like Kennedy or in NY Boelert.they sit on thrones for so long they believe they are the law.
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