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[Zamm]

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It looks to me like the new bottom line is that smg kits can be legally imported, contrary to all that has been posted here, insisting that it cannot be done. The proof is in the pudding. What more can anybody say? T-man Greg even inspected the incoming crates personally.

This is Indeed great news!
Finally some sense being exersised
Zamm

[Walter63a]

QUOTE (PhilOhio @ Mar 29 2005, 08:49 PM)

It looks to me like the new bottom line is that smg kits can be legally imported, contrary to all that has been posted here, insisting that it cannot be done.  The proof is in the pudding.  What more can anybody say?  T-man Greg even inspected the incoming crates personally. Anybody still care to insist it can't be done, or that a whole string of agencies are just making an unbroken chain of mistakes?

Phil, it would appear you are exactly right sir. You won't find me complaining. Best, Walter

[Hawkeye_Joe]

hardrede, I just wondering why you are so dead set on getting these shipments stopped.. you seem to revel in the thought that you are right about the illegality of them.

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I SAID MONTHS AGO THAT THIS RUSSIAN STUFF WAS ILLEGAL!!!!! I AM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF NOW KNOWING THAT I WAS CORRECT.  AS WELL, IF YOU BOUGHT A KIT FROM ARIZONA, EXPECT A CALL FROM THE ALPHABET SOUP GUYS TO SEE YOUR PARTS!!!!

By your own words you have diligently tried to get the importers in a legal wrangle with the US Govt.

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I have been saying for three years that this stuff is illegal. I have called Defense Trade Controls at the US State Department and they have been very unhelpful. Many people are at risk from shady importers that do not care that they are jeopardizing the liberty of their customers!!!!

And you are also misstating what T-Man said:

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As well, "T-Man" stated that this was a U.S. Munitions List violation

What he said was that he "thought" that they were illegal to import but wasn't sure..

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How did these get here? It was my understanding that Lend-Lease Thompson parts and mags were verboten to be reimported. Did things change?

So far as I can see you have gone "Above and Beyond" the scope of just making sure they are legal or illegal.... you seem to "want" people to get burned since they didn't listen to you, so you are pointing fingers and trying to raise red flags to the Govt. about it and basically "Quisling" on people........your world must be pretty small to want to do this...

I may be wrong as hell but this is the way you look to me and quite possibly to a lot of people.

[TommyGunner]

I wonder who is responsible for enforcing retransfer authorizations? Not the ATF evidently. Customs? Well they passed it through as well. What could the penalty be if not done properly.

hardrede,

I spoke with these folks a while back on your reccomendation. The gentleman I spoke with (can't remember his name) said that these things were caught by customs...not the ATF. Violators were then notified of the omission and fined/caused to pay fees. He never mentioned contraband, confiscation, or unwanted visits.

BTW...spoke with Christian (supposedly the boss at IMA) and he said that the kits were freshly imported. The kits IMA has have the same features as the ones at Omega and Don at Omega said they came from the same source in the UK.

Not claiming to know everything here just dishing it out as I get it.

Damon

[Walter63a]

QUOTE (TommyGunner @ Mar 30 2005, 12:11 PM)

The gentleman I spoke with (can't remember his name) said that these things were caught by customs...not the ATF. Violators were then notified of the omission and fined/caused to pay fees. He never mentioned contraband, confiscation, or unwanted visits.

Damon, it sounds like the fines are being treated as simply one of the costs of doing business, and business is apparently doing very well right now. Regards, Walter

[Ron A]

Its interesting how much space this issue gets - who really gives a rip?

[Zamm]

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Its interesting how much space this issue gets - who really gives a rip?

Ron,
As being one of the select few who have been visited by our freinds
from the BATF, and not in a "come on in and have coffee" kind of way, I certainly do...
If I decide to buy a parts kit, or for that matter, a screw,
from IMA, Ohio ord., Omega, etc... I would like to know that what ever we purchase does not
come back to haunt us in the future because of a mis-interperted law or such.
Plus, it's kind of neat to see how the laws are written and actually represented/carried out.
Zamm

[moparnascar]

If I personally was one that inspected the crates, and there was no receivers/guns, I would have said nothing. They are just parts kits. The more the merrier. I sure would not be pointing fingers and calling anyone. Just my opinion.

Bill

[Lancer]

QUOTE (Hawkeye_Joe @ Mar 30 2005, 11:18 AM)

hardrede, I just wondering why you are so dead set on getting these shipments stopped.. you seem to revel in the thought that you are right about the illegality of them.

I have to agree with Hawkeye_Joe's assessment of hardrede. He seems to take such glee in trying to create legal problems for anyone he perceives to have committed some sort of infraction.
He truly seems to revels in his self appointed roll of JR. G-man.

[Tman]

I have placed a call to the Imports Branch in HQ and am waiting for someone to call me back. I will try to get your questions answered the best I can.

[Zamm]

Ah, Ron,
Wondering where you been
Good stuff as usual
Zamm

[The1930sRust]

QUOTE (hardrede @ Apr 4 2005, 08:03 PM)

Well, the asshole rears his ugly head again!!!!

This is where the post went south as far as the Mods are concerned. End it now. I can tolerate tongue-in-cheek parodies, but name calling is preschool.

[colt21a]

i deleted all.and will move on....peace to everybody...

[Arthur Fliegenheimer]

When 20 people say you are inebriated, you should lie down.

[Balder]

Thanks to the Thompson board, I've had enough and will seek other sources of information and discussion.

Balder

[LIONHART]

I love this Forum....