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#1 gunrunner

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:10 AM

I am selling the following from my collection. I do not have any photos, and for this kind of money I would strongly encourage a personal visit to view the gun/guns. I am not a Class III dealer, all guns are transferable. I can be reached at the e-mail above or at the following no. 814-598-2628. Thank You

1. Colt Thompson 1921A. 98% condition high-end gun. All correct. Serial no. 1477 from Virginia State Police. Also included is an original Colt C Drum (matching), NY 3rd L Drum, 1 Pat. Date mag, 1 Blank face mag that came with the gun. $42,000.00
2. Colt Thompson 1921AC. 98% condition high-end gun. All correct. Serial no. 7285 from Kearney County Nebraska Sheriffs Department. Also included is an original FBI case, NY 3rd L Drum, 4 Pat. Date mags. $40,000.00
3. Colt Thompson 1921A. 85% condition used gun. All correct. Serial no. 4351 from Birmingham Al. Police Dept. Also included is an original Russo canvas case for the 1921A model Colt, NY 3rd L Drum, 4 Pat. Date mags. $30,000.00
4. Colt Thompson 1928N PARTS KIT all correct. $6000.00
5. Original Police Case with NY 3rd L Drum,4 Pat Date mags.$6500.00
Funds are required upfront.


Not mine just FYI. Gunrunner
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#2 giantpanda4

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 09:03 AM

Wow!
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#3 Roland, Headless Thompson Gunner

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 11:53 AM

Good to see the prices are coming down.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 02:16 PM

Not for anything, but a friend of mine just sold a mint mint 21a for $32K which he admits was a bit too much for it....where the hell do these people come up with these prices? for that kind of money, as much as i love thompsons, i'd sell them too!!!
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#5 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 02:51 PM

This is absurd! There are a preponderance of "mint" "98%" 80+ year old TSMG's in the pipeline now. Even if the police departments fired their TSMG's infrequently, they were surely indifferent about handling, storage, cleaning, and transporting a weapon that was tax payer purchased and of inconsequential personal value.

If a 1921 Colt TSMG is indeed in "mint" condition, how is $32K "too" much of a realized sale? I wonder if those who sell M-60's for $60K and Colt/Winchester 1918 BAR's for $35K have similar feelings of a seller's "too high profit" remorse?

The #1477 Virginia State PD TSMG from the J. Curtis Earl collection (as it seems all the Virginia SPD TSMG's were Earl owned) is surely suspect to be in 98% original condition.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 04:34 PM

Wow, great pieces. Where are they offered for sale? I didn't see the ad on either Sturm or subguns.

Wish I could afford that VSP piece. They are pretty nice, since they never left the Richmond HQ gunroom unless they were used for in-service school demonstrations or for coal miner strike duty.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (snipershot1944 @ Apr 21 2005, 04:34 PM)
Wow, great pieces.  Where are they offered for sale?  I didn't see the ad on either Sturm or subguns.

Wish I could afford that VSP piece.  They are pretty nice, since they never left the Richmond HQ gunroom unless they were used for in-service school demonstrations or for coal miner strike duty.


They are on Sturmgewehr.com.

Arthur is correct, it seems that J. Curtis Earl owned many of the Virginia State Police guns years ago. If he owned them, I would be a little suspect about the 98% rating, too.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 05:40 PM

I think that Buddy may have zapped it (as usual).

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 05:45 PM

My 28 WH looks sweeter every day!
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 05:47 PM

That would be a serious apples and oranges comparison, IMHO
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 06:40 PM

Apples & oranges are both fruit. Depends on what you have taste for. For the price of a $1000 or less parts kit you can make a WH gun mechanically just as sound as a pre war or war gun. The only differance between my tommy and one of them is the historical stories. Some true and some false. OH... Then thiers the price!
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (snipershot1944 @ Apr 21 2005, 05:40 PM)
I think that Buddy may have zapped it (as usual).


Could someone enlighten me why certain posts are deleted on Sturmgewehr for what seem like innocent technical errors? Is it grammar, punctuation, spelling or incomplete sentences?

Anyway, I saw the ad that was reposted on this list earlier today on Sturmgewehr. Either it was zapped or someone bought the whole lot and the seller didn't want to get "YELLED" at for not deleting the post quickly enough. biggrin.gif
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 07:38 PM

Buddy is a board nazi (no ads for you!!!)

Not really, he just has very narrow specifications for posts on his board. Location and price in the header, etc. If they don't meet the specs, he zaps them. His board, his rules.

As for WH vs Colt Thompsons, it's kind of like Harleys and Hondas. Both get you from point a to z, but there is a certain non-functional mystique associated with certain items that add to the value.

One is not necessarilly better or worse than the other, but they are very different investments.

Time to get off the soapbox. Wish I had a bucket of dollars for the VSP Thompson. My Dad probably fired it at one time or another in his 37-year career.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (snipershot1944 @ Apr 21 2005, 07:38 PM)
Buddy is a board nazi (no ads for you!!!)

Not really, he just has very narrow specifications for posts on his board.  Location and price in the header, etc.  If they don't meet the specs, he zaps them.  His board, his rules.

Sniper,

Thanks for the input, but I guess what I was puzzled by was, what was wrong with the text of the ad that was reposted by gunrunner this morning? He obviously copied the original ad verbatim. I did see the original ad and I can't for the life of me understand what was so objectionable in the text. Are you saying that it was probably the header that was incorrect? I don't remember it exactly, but it had the obligatory WTS: Etc. I don't have an issue with his deleting posts, after all it is his Board, as you correctly point out; I just don't see much consistency in the deleting of posts. It all seems rather arbitrary.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:31 PM

Gijive,

An assumption that Buddy deleted the post could be correct, or maybe not. There might have been some technical issue with it, and Buddy may have deleted it. Many posts are deleted by the original poster due to errors noticed after submission, additional information that becomes available regarding the item for sale, or because they have had a major "bite" on the item , and want to cut down on additional inquiries for an item that could be sold pending funds. Some people notice that they made a technical posting error, and delete it themselves prior to gaining Buddy's attention.

I always delete my own posts as soon as I have an e-mail agreement for a buyer to purchase the item.

Buddy deletes a lot of posts. His moderation maintains order on the board. This particular ad was posted by someone who posts quite frequently, and is familiar with the process, and that is why I believe it might have been deleted by the poster.

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#16 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:44 PM

If Brian in PA deleted the post himself, suggesting that he sold all of his items, then there are some out of touch buyers who paid his $6500 price for a police case (worth $1.5K-2.5K) with a 3rd pattern New York drum (worth $1k-$2K) and four patent date mags (worth $400 max) and also paid his $6.5K for a parts kit that has sold for under $4K in the last six months.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:55 PM

Arthur,

O.K., now I realize that I got a little confused as to who generated the original post. For some reason I thought we were talking about the Thompson for sale in Miami. I'm not sure why the post was deleted. I'm just saying that when a post is deleted, one should not automatically assume that Buddy deleted it. And no, I did not delete it, either.

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#18 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 09:11 PM

David,
The Ruben Mendiola ad seemed straight forward as well even though the description included a Colt TSMG covered in cosmoline, but then subjected to a Don's Gun Shop ultrasonic cleaning. Hummm. He then advertises the price at $31,995 OBO, but then adds, "I'm in no hurry to sell it." Does that mean that if a buyer met his $31,995 figure he would still have to think about it?

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 09:18 PM

Arthur,

I hope not...

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE (dalbert @ Apr 21 2005, 08:31 PM)
This particular ad was posted by someone who posts quite frequently, and is familiar with the process, and that is why I believe it might have been deleted by the poster. 


Hi Dave,

Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. I was being a little "tongue-in-cheek", knowing the reputation that your brother has for deleting posts. No disrespect was was intended. Your explanation was clear and concise. I really was trying to get a better sense of the deletion process, as I have only posted on your Boards a couple of times. Mine weren't deleted, mind you, I was just trying to get a better understanding of what criteria was used in the event I post in the future. Thanks.
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