Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Anyone Know Of A Roger Cox Book For Sale?


  • Please log in to reply
19 replies to this topic

#1 Lotusnut

Lotusnut

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 59 posts

Posted 28 April 2005 - 11:18 AM

I know these are expensive, does anyone know of one for sale ?

Thanks


  • 0

#2 giantpanda4

giantpanda4

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2107 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Howell, MI 48855
  • Interests:Mechanical toys - cars, instruments, and of course - guns. The 1921-28 thompsons are the epitomy of perfection for a mechanical device that fills all my interests!

Posted 28 April 2005 - 01:52 PM

I have been looking for the same thing on Amazon, had a standing search for about two years. There has not yet been one out there under $250 in any condition. Evilbay had one go for about $300, if I remember right.

Good luck.... maybe we can get the person with the rights to it to get a reprint going... sounds economically feasible!
  • 0

#3 Lotusnut

Lotusnut

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 59 posts

Posted 28 April 2005 - 02:03 PM

Good luck as well.

some guy on Amazon is selling one for $800+, and is references and feedback are crappy...

I'll pass on that one !
  • 0

#4 LIONHART

LIONHART

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Regular Group
  • 2785 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Thompsons of course. All Manufactures and Models.

Posted 28 April 2005 - 07:21 PM

Generally, one in Exc. Condition will fetch around $350.00. There had been one on ABEBooks for a short while, but have since been sold. SARCO INC. Had the rights to Reprint the Book, and about three years ago sold said rights to an unknown entity. Whether or not we'll see a Reprint is anyone's' guess. I hope that we do, but we may be in for a very long wait.
  • 0

#5 Phil Askew

Phil Askew

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 287 posts

Posted 28 April 2005 - 09:27 PM

I was offered one for $400, no dust cover but book was super nice. I already had one. E-mail me if you are interested and I'll see if he still has it. (philfordparts@yahoo.com)
  • 0

#6 Lotusnut

Lotusnut

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 59 posts

Posted 28 April 2005 - 10:16 PM

email sent
  • 0

#7 jim

jim

    Regular Member

  • Regular Group
  • 160 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northwest Washington state
  • Interests:Class 2 manufacturer but mostly deal in and do transfers of Class 3 stuff. Benchmark Barrels works under my FFL and manufactures match grade rifle barrels.

Posted 28 April 2005 - 10:42 PM

I'm cheap, I got a copy from the library and thoroughly read it through over a couple of weeks
  • 0

#8 Zamm

Zamm

    Respected Member & Artist

  • Regular Group
  • 831 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, New York
  • Interests:Thompsons, and all their goodies!<br>Obsolete Victorian Photomechanical processes,<br>Etching, Engraving and all Printmaking,<br>Entomology, specializing in Coleoptera,<br>Arachnology, specializing in Theraphosidae.

Posted 29 April 2005 - 12:17 AM

Jim,
If one is just looking for refference and not actually collecting books, one could be even cheaper, that is , borrow a copy from the library and scan it, print it out and bind it.
Not that I would ever do such a thing or condone someone to do with a copyrighted item. dry.gif
Zamm
  • 0

#9 Zamm

Zamm

    Respected Member & Artist

  • Regular Group
  • 831 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, New York
  • Interests:Thompsons, and all their goodies!<br>Obsolete Victorian Photomechanical processes,<br>Etching, Engraving and all Printmaking,<br>Entomology, specializing in Coleoptera,<br>Arachnology, specializing in Theraphosidae.

Posted 29 April 2005 - 06:55 AM

Geez Phil, you are in rare form!

Okay, okay, I pirate copyrighted materials ph34r.gif

Z

P.S. If your library does not happen to have the book, ask for a "inter-library loan"
and they will get one from another library temp. for you... tongue.gif
  • 0

#10 ftc3906

ftc3906

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 57 posts

Posted 29 April 2005 - 09:03 AM

Why would someone purchase book rights and just sit on them? I'm surprised that SARCO didn't republish once original Cox copies hit $100. I have never known of SARCO to run away from a dollar!


  • 0

#11 giantpanda4

giantpanda4

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2107 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Howell, MI 48855
  • Interests:Mechanical toys - cars, instruments, and of course - guns. The 1921-28 thompsons are the epitomy of perfection for a mechanical device that fills all my interests!

Posted 29 April 2005 - 09:28 AM

I tried the interlibrary loan.

Not one library had it available for loan! All pointed to me that these damn liberal librarians don't like the title.... no one was eager to help. I even went to the State library, can't find it!

Let me know what libraries have it... I will contact them directly.

Or ... Zamm can make us all copies...! ph34r.gif
  • 0

#12 giantpanda4

giantpanda4

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2107 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Howell, MI 48855
  • Interests:Mechanical toys - cars, instruments, and of course - guns. The 1921-28 thompsons are the epitomy of perfection for a mechanical device that fills all my interests!

Posted 29 April 2005 - 09:42 AM

You know, there is a guy out in evilbay who bids on Tommy stuff, goes by "bookbinder". Is that anyone here?

Maybe we can get in contact with him or someone who could give us the costs of doing a project like this. Think the TCA would like to get into this? May be better than hawking Kahr comemmoratives!
  • 0

#13 giantpanda4

giantpanda4

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2107 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Howell, MI 48855
  • Interests:Mechanical toys - cars, instruments, and of course - guns. The 1921-28 thompsons are the epitomy of perfection for a mechanical device that fills all my interests!

Posted 29 April 2005 - 11:14 AM

Well, I brain farted... that guy is a big Ferrari buyer/ seller (in Va, I think). Forgot who I was bidding against and in what category on Evilbay!

Thanks God it is not who you said!

  • 0

#14 TD.

TD.

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2951 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:02 PM

Does anyone think there would be that big a market for a reprint of Roger's book today? I am certainly grateful to own an autographed original numbered copy. However, I am more grateful it was published at a time when very little had been published on the Thompson Submachine Gun. It contained a lot of new information on the Thompson that had never been published or made available in an easy reference format. Most Thompson articles at that time were only a rehash of previously printed material and lacked any real depth or substance. Since then, several different books have been published, most are still in print and at least two contain updated Colt serial number information. I still find Roger's book very interesting reading and understand why every Thompson enthusiast would want a copy. However, I don't see it being a big enough seller to warrant a reprint of the same quality as the original book. Perhaps, this is why it has never been reprinted.
  • 0

#15 Merry Ploughboy

Merry Ploughboy

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Regular Group
  • 898 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 29 April 2005 - 05:29 PM

When I got a copy of the Cox book through my local libray inter-library loan it came from a U.S. Army base library (Ft. Gordon, GA??), not another "public" library. That may be why the locals can't find it - not looking in the right place.
  • 0

#16 Zamm

Zamm

    Respected Member & Artist

  • Regular Group
  • 831 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, New York
  • Interests:Thompsons, and all their goodies!<br>Obsolete Victorian Photomechanical processes,<br>Etching, Engraving and all Printmaking,<br>Entomology, specializing in Coleoptera,<br>Arachnology, specializing in Theraphosidae.

Posted 30 April 2005 - 09:59 PM

giantpanda4 and Merry Ploughboy,

My local library is real good at tracking down stuff like this. They go
at it with a vengence. Once found a single copy of a book someplace and got it for me. Real nice.
Now, with the Cox book, they came up with 8 libraries in the country that had it.

Giantpanda4, Go back an pester them! Tell them to look in Seattle, that's where the one I got came from.
Tell them you need to do historical reference for crime statistics or something wink.gif
Z
  • 0

#17 John Jr

John Jr

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Regular Group
  • 1956 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mena, Arkansas, USA
  • Interests:Plenty

Posted 30 April 2005 - 10:11 PM

I have the cox book and the sup too. I would see them for $2,500.00 cash.

biggrin.gif
  • 0

#18 TD.

TD.

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 2951 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 30 April 2005 - 10:23 PM

Jr,
I could not imagine selling my signed Cox book and supplement. But if someone offered $2500......SOLD biggrin.gif

  • 0

#19 Merry Ploughboy

Merry Ploughboy

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Regular Group
  • 898 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 May 2005 - 07:08 PM

The Roger Cox Thompson book is still for sale at only $824.23 on Amazon.

Comes complete with a glowing five star review by (to no surprise) the seller. Isn't that a blatant conflict of interest?

Edited by Merry Ploughboy, 03 May 2005 - 07:12 PM.

  • 0

#20 Arthur Fliegenheimer

Arthur Fliegenheimer

    Respected Member

  • Regular Group
  • 3471 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:31 PM

Since the reprints of all the original Auto-Ord-Co catalogs didn't affect their current colossal values ($550 for 4 pages of illustrations and ad copy?) then neither would a reprint of Cox's book. Although reprinting a hardcover book with dust cover that depicted actual photos would hardly be practical considering there are not enough perspective buyers to run off the bare minimum amount required by a printer to make a profit.
  • 0