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#1 ACARLG

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 06:42 AM

Ok, 'fess up - who bought it?

Sheriff's department has vintage gun for sale
http://pittsburghliv...l/s_328772.html
By Sam Kusic
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, April 28, 2005


Editor's note: The headline of this article was modified Saturday, April 30, 2005, to correct information about the seller of the gun.
It was the weapon of choice for fedora-wearing, Duesenberg-driving mafia bootleggers from the days of prohibition.

But Indiana County Sheriff Robert E. Fyock says his deputies have little need of the vintage Colt Model 1921 AC Thompson submachine gun that has been in their arsenal as long as anyone can remember.

Better known as a tommy gun, the heavy weapon with wood pistol grip below the barrel and a big, round, menacing ammunition clip, is for sale.

"It's not doing my department any good," Fyock says.

For one thing, nobody is trained to use it. And the sheriff says he sees no real need for it.

"It's a liability for our department." blink.gif

So instead of allowing it to continue to collect dust, the department will sell it to the highest bidder, using the proceeds to pay for deputies' training.

And the proceeds from the sale will probably pay for a lot of training, if the price another submachine fetched is any indication.

In 2003, Irwin Borough's police department sold its tommy gun for $14,500. ohmy.gif

There is a big collector's market for tommy guns, says Dan Smith, a licensed gun dealer who is helping the county sell the weapon.

In fact, he received 50 inquiries within 24 hours of posting a classified ad on a gun collectors' Web site.

And this particular gun, he says, is enticing to collectors because it is has had only one owner, is in good shape and has hardly ever been fired. Plus, it comes with a 50-round drum clip and two 20-round "stick" clips.

Most likely, the gun will be sold to an investor, collector or dealer. And because of that, Smith says, it probably will never be fired.

No one is sure when it was fired last, or even how long the department has had it.

"We don't have anybody who goes far enough back to know when it came in," Smith says.

It's likely, he says, that it was purchased in the 20s or 30s, when lawmen and the lawless were carrying them.

Back then, Smith says, Tommy guns were sold in hardware stores. No license and no paperwork required.



Sam Kusic can be reached at skusic@tribweb.com or 724.463.8742.

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#2 ACARLG

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 08:46 AM

Perhaps this is it?

http://www.sturmgewe....cgi?read=58947
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:20 AM

This is the gun that was listed on subguns for "best offer" by May 8th. I did have an opportunity to personally inspect the gun.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:46 AM

pca16 - How did you rate this Thompson after a personnal inspection?
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 02:44 PM

Nice gun, what's interesting about this gun is the fact that it's all originally original. Meaning that no one has changed out the parts, or the stock. The numbered drum and blank XX mag that came with the gun are being sold with the gun. The department only had 1 Thompson, so not hard to keep track of parts. The condition of the gun is somewhat rough in certain places, but hay it's 74 years old.
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#6 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 03:08 PM

So Scott H in PA bought #1236 from the Sheriff for around $15K and is now selling it in a two for one $80K deal? Seems Scott didn't want perspective buyers hip to the fact he just picked up the Indiana County TSMG for a song. How is it that the PD didn't see fit to collect the easily achieved $35K+ coin on the TSMG for themselves?
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 09:03 PM

Boy, are you guys confused. The guns that Scott has for sale are not the same one that Dan is selling for Indiana County. Scott, who I know personally, is a Pennsylvania State Trooper and these are in his private collection. Scott and Dan are in no way connected.
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#8 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 09:47 PM

pca16,

I guess the confusion is traced back to ACARLG's post regarding the Sturmgewehr ad and then your response to that post that this is the TSMG you personally inspected. Further confusion I guess results from your personal connection to both Scott and Dan. It sure is a small world


But what happened to this SUBGUN ad if the bidding is open until May 8th?

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Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:46 AM

I think that either subgun pulled the ad because of it's format, or Dan did to allow for bids to be submitted by today. The County must sell by bid process once it reaches a certain amount.
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Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:10 PM

I'm sorry to revive such an old thread, but I really want to find where this Thompson went. I was able to examine it in 2005 and have photos of it and me holding it. Does anyone know where number 1236 is now?

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (mp43sniper @ Jan 3 2010, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry to revive such an old thread, but I really want to find where this Thompson went. I was able to examine it in 2005 and have photos of it and me holding it. Does anyone know where number 1236 is now?

Thanks,
Craig





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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:33 PM







bug, could I please have your email and/or contact information? I live in Indiana and have a couple questions. My email is mp43sniper at gmail.com (replace spaces and "at" with @).

Thanks,
Craig

Edited by mp43sniper, 04 January 2010 - 06:36 PM.

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