1921 Thompson - Non Original Barrel
Posted 06 May 2005 - 11:23 AM
Any advice appreciated.
Posted 06 May 2005 - 11:52 AM
As far as replacement barrels, all Colt TSMG's that have the second pattern Cutts compensator had their original barrel changed by Auto-Ord when owners sent their TSMG back to them after 1931, or when they were originally ordered by a customer with a Cutts and then sold after 1931.
Are their any other marks on the barrel than the alignment mark? Does it line up evenly, or with an acceptable fraction off with the witness mark on the receiver, or is it way off? What is the thickness of the cooling fins?
But if their are marks on the receiver that are pronounced enough to suggest being in a "vice," since it is the barrel that would sit in the vice, how would the condition be determined to be 95%?
Posted 06 May 2005 - 07:59 PM
Can't remember, but I hear they are really good knock offs.
Posted 06 May 2005 - 09:26 PM
Posted 06 May 2005 - 10:03 PM
|QUOTE (PK. @ May 6 2005, 08:26 PM)|
|Richardson barrels are made from GI M1's and you will find parts of the GI markings intact.|
Ok, didn't know he left original markings on the GI barrels.
Posted 07 May 2005 - 12:20 PM
For better or worse I have bought it. I hope it is worth $26K!
Posted 07 May 2005 - 01:37 PM
If you care to email me the pictures I can post them for you.
Posted 07 May 2005 - 05:29 PM
Thanks for your help.
Posted 07 May 2005 - 06:16 PM
Haven't received the pictures yet, I'll keep an eye out for them, though. If you need my complete email address it is: email@example.com. I'm not sure you can send them through the Thompson Board email service.
Posted 07 May 2005 - 06:28 PM
Congratulations on your Thompson purchase. Enjoy many happy times!
Posted 08 May 2005 - 10:53 AM
Posted 08 May 2005 - 10:58 AM
Posted 08 May 2005 - 11:07 AM
The concern for a Colt collector would be that if the barrel was replaced, are any of the other parts replaced? Maybe the original barrel was replaced years ago and the rest of the other original parts are intact. Good luck with your purchase, maybe you can locate an original barrel at some point down the line to replace the one that is presently on the gun.
Posted 08 May 2005 - 11:21 AM
Just for you information, Gordon Herigstad's Colt serial number book has the original owner of # 14326 listed as the Piermont, New York Police Department. Just thought I'd let you know in case you weren't aware. Maybe you can contact them for some history on the gun.
Posted 08 May 2005 - 11:31 AM
Does the pattern "wrap around" the entire rear portion of the gun?
I suspect that if you looked carefully at the weave pattern of the material of an original canvas case you may find an identical pattern. Moisture that is held in the fabric will rust in a pattern similar to the weave of that fabric.
MAYBE the gun was carried in a canvas case and the top flap was rained on lightly, then the gun was put away with a slightly damp case.....If the gun could only talk!!!
I had a few 20 round magazines that were stored in a 5 cell mag pouch I bought a few years ago that had received a similar pattern of rust on their corners.
Anyone have an original canvas case that they can check this pattern out against??
I also have a gun that I once left in a case in my truck for a month or so and it was pretty humid out....(August in Minnesota)
A while later I pulled it to store it in my safe, only to discover the downward side of the gun had a pattern of fine rust exactly the same as the cloth liner inside the case!
Something to think about....
Posted 08 May 2005 - 11:35 AM
|QUOTE (john @ May 8 2005, 11:31 AM)|
|Anyone have an original canvas case that they can check this pattern out against??|
I think you hit it right on the head! The pattern is very similar to the pattern on the original canvas cases. That is probably exactly what occurred with that gun.
Posted 08 May 2005 - 04:51 PM
Congrats on your acquisition. I hope it brings much to your collection.
Posted 09 May 2005 - 05:05 PM
and I'm jealous!!!
Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:43 PM
Thanks for your help. I will not entertain onother Thompsaon purchase without consulting with this board!