What's The Verdict On Wolf .45 Ammo?
Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:07 AM
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:08 PM
I have used over 10k rounds of Wolf in my Thompson without problems. I find it to be reliable and inexpensive at about $120/1000. My suggestion would be to try it to see how it functions in your gun. I have found no reason to spend more for other factory ammo for the Thompson. The Reising is another story. So far it is more reliable with brass cased ammo.
Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:17 PM
Wolf will work, but unless you are just shooting the piss out of your TSMG, then shoot S&B or something like PMP.
Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:33 PM
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 12:30 PM
I wouldn't dismiss Wolf ammo just because of the steel cases. I've also used quite a bit of their steel cased 9mm in my MP40 without difficulty. Original German ammo generally had steel cases as well, starting in 1940.
Funny; I've never had a cartridge base seperation with steel cased ammo, only brass. No problems with opturation or failed case rims, either. I'm thinking that it isn't that brass cases are more expensive. They aren't. It's just that they are so much less hard on cartridge making equipment.
Posted 18 May 2005 - 03:23 PM
Posted 19 May 2005 - 09:11 AM
Like I said before...proper lubricant is a must....just ask the babe on the calender....Mobil 1,the big one,..er..I can`t remember....
Posted 19 May 2005 - 08:35 PM
Now that was before PK opened the chamber up a bit to Mil spec.
With brass cases the extractor took chunks off of the rim. (Again prior to PKs work)
I ran a fair amount through my Colt Defender as well without a hitch. Actually I had far less fouling with Wolf than Winchester White Box.
Kimber does NOT recommend Wolf for their guns, but I had a lot of FTF with Win. The Colt eats everything I feed it.
W231, LOL, really filthy, but it sure churns out a mean .357!
Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:53 AM
|QUOTE (Grey Crow @ May 19 2005, 08:35 PM)|
|W231...sure churns out a mean .357!|
Hmmm...I'll keep that in mind next time I set up for some .357. I reckon I'll have to look up some data now.
Posted 20 May 2005 - 09:01 PM
The Germans did not go to steel 8mm cases early in WWII because of shortages. There were no shortages. They were winning! They went to steel cases because their MG34s and new MG42s were tearing the rims off of brass cases due to their high rate of fire. This was even more critical in aviation applications where the gunner was the pilot and could not access the gun to clear stoppages. Reliability soared.
I rather doubt that steel cases are 'cheaper' than brass, rather, the other way around. We use brass here for two reasons that I can see: we like to reload, and brass is far easier on production equipment (read:cheaper). Let's keep in mind that half of all of the trained engineers in the world are within the boundries of the old Soviet Union. They don't turn out junk.
Brass cases fire form when fired, assuming the shape of the chamber that they were fired in. Steel does not, and assumes its original shape immediately after firing. This makes for really easy extraction.
I'll stand my AK-74 (with steel cased 5.45x39 ammunition) against an often modified M-16 any time. One gun is a model of rugged reliability which you only need to clean if you're otherwise bored; the other is questionable in its reliability to this day, in spite of being around longer than any other US shoulder weapon.