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#1 Hawkeye_Joe

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 11:45 AM

See!!! it's never ending..........


Knife ban

Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

Doctors say knives are too pointed
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.


Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."



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Posted 27 May 2005 - 01:54 PM

Those wacky Brits.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 08:18 PM

They better look into those roving death dealers known as "Cars" also... Damm dangerous things
for the public to privately own! laugh.gif
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 08:41 PM

I kind of figure that in maybe the next ten or so years that flatware will need serial numbers, registration as well. From there they will most likley make a national registry for fork tine patterns.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 09:10 PM

Maybe they will let you amnesty register granny's old butcher knives.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 11:55 PM

OH MY FREAKING GOD. huh.gif
Have you guys ever seen the column, "This week's sign of the apocolypse" in Sports Illustrated? This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder where things are going...
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 06:52 AM

How come Great Britain and Kommiefornia have become so universally aligned politically and are a half a world apart geographically?... huh.gif ...must be the lack of firearms...and the proliferance of ...drugs!... wink.gif
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 04:15 PM

pretty funny, despite the lack of fire arms, violent crime is still on the rise. so ya, the next step would be take away the knives.


in the future:
home owner sued over illegal rose bush in front of window.
a would be burglar is sueing the home owner after receiving several really nasty scratchs from said bush.
the bush is a non-registered plant that can grow thorns up to a 1/4(5mm) of an long. ot has been determended that these plants can spread blood born deseases.
the home owner could face life in prison.......
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 04:19 PM

Anybody else remeber Billy the Kid killing a man with 1 1/2" stub of a broken pocket knife. Anyway the brits let themselves be disarmed and look a the hell their in. Their armed cops are turning in guns becouse the feel good laywers don't back them up in court for a good shoot scenario. Don't think me moving to England, maybe Swizarland or Izreal where they let you have guns but not bloody briton.

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:57 PM

i dunno, i can't see many good reasons to carry butchers knives in public places...
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 12:29 AM

So where does it end. Will large rocks get banned some day?

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE (p51 @ May 30 2005, 12:29 AM)
So where does it end. Will large rocks get banned some day?

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"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so."



They already are....... unsure.gif
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 09:14 AM

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so."

i think with the right motivation, and if the situation demanded it, most people could make any object fit that description...
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 04:14 PM

I'm willing to bet that more than any knife, eating at the local 'chippy' fish and chips house is a greater cause of death in the UK.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 08:51 PM

oh man, eating at the chippy is a fast way to the grave for all sorts of reasons, dont touch the stuff myself...i do own a few knives, some that i keep in the kitchen, however i dont feel the need to cause any death with them...
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 11:57 AM

Sounds like just another reason not to go to Europe.
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 04:54 PM

Just read another article where they are banning the wearing of hooded sweatshirts in malls and stores...Dont' stop the crime....ban a profiling tip...Hooded people commit crimes=ban Hoodies... ph34r.gif
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 05:58 AM

The History of mankind's right to self-defense

4000 B.C.-clubs, spears, stabbing instruments

1500's A.D.-cannons and simple firearms

1920's U.S.A.-Tommyguns (the epitome of personal self-defense) biggrin.gif

2005-baseball bats (clubs) blink.gif sad.gif cool.gif
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 11:18 AM

Well Maryland Police near DC are now using night vision goggles to fight crime in an area with the worst murder rate in the country .. they are spying in people's cars to see if they are wearing seatbelts so they can be "Clickit or Ticket'd" .....Amazing the priorities in this wonderful country...... blink.gif
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