Removing Broken Extractor
Posted 29 May 2005 - 01:39 PM
I can't get a bite on it to lift it, to slide it out of the bolt.
Any tips as to how to remove it.
Posted 29 May 2005 - 02:15 PM
Posted 29 May 2005 - 03:41 PM
By the looks of it its going to need to go to a smith. I've tried just about every trick I can think of, and can't get anything under it to spring it free,
Wolf "IS" expensive ammo in the long run!
Posted 29 May 2005 - 05:54 PM
if it's in front, you "should" be able to get on it with a pair of pliers, like a 6" pair of needle noses, or a small pair of vise-grips.
i've removed several with this "technique".
Posted 29 May 2005 - 08:11 PM
Any thoughts on cutting a small grove across the bolt allowing something to be slid under the extractor behind the indexing oval??
Think it would weaken the bolt.
I really don't want to replace the bolt if I don't need to. But its in there real good.
Such a simple little thing, but perplexing.
Posted 29 May 2005 - 08:23 PM
you should be to get ahold of it from the top. if it's been in awhile, try soaking over nite in a cleaner.
grinding on the bolt is not something i'd do myself.
Posted 29 May 2005 - 08:50 PM
Posted 29 May 2005 - 08:55 PM
I'll give the wire cutters a try after working on them. There just isn't enough above the bolt edges to allow much of a grip.
The extractor is around 8 months old, and everything is very clean and kept oiled. It still compresses in the bolt a little.
Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:01 PM
To think I had extra extractors with me at the range jut in case. LOL, I didn't think it would become an all day ordeal..
Live and Learn!
Thanks everyone for the ideas......
Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:27 PM
|QUOTE (PhilOhio @ May 29 2005, 06:13 PM)|
|Any of you Wolf ammo cheerleaders got some advice?|
Extractors cost $12.50 at Sarco.
At a savings of $50 to $100 per thousand I can afford to break a couple of extractors per K and still come out ahead.
However I have never broken one.
Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:53 PM
Posted 30 May 2005 - 06:53 AM
|QUOTE (PhilOhio @ May 29 2005, 07:13 PM)|
|Any of you Wolf ammo cheerleaders got some advice?|
Replace the extractor, buy two more cases of Wolf and keep shooting. Broken extractors, firing pins etc happen with all types of ammo. That's why they make spare parts. If a person can't handle that, he should leave his gun in the safe.
Good luck Grey Crow, sounds like you got it.
Posted 30 May 2005 - 03:39 PM
Usually when I go shooting I have spares with me (spare ejector, complete bolt assembly, recoil spring, a couple of pilot buffers and a spare pilot.
And plenty of magazines! Should cover all minor catastrophies.....
Posted 30 May 2005 - 03:47 PM
You have that straight! I used a drill press, Brownell's Do Drill oil, and barely make a dimple on the extractor.
The Dremil cut off did the trick. I ended up placing a slit in the bolt, that now just barely allows a paper clip to slide under the broken extractor. Then I polished the area with 320 and 1500 grit to a fine polish.
So that's about $30 for extractors, $80 for ammo, and an afternoon screwing with them getting them out. I think brass has just become cheaper.
Back to the range today, more Wolf and "snap", extractor #2. This makes 3 for the life of the gun That's with about 500 rounds of Wolf....
I'll burn the rest of the case up in the Kimber and save the Win for the 27.
Now all I need do is get my cataracts out and I might just be able to hold a tighter group. See the target even! Its really not too bad on overcast days, but when its bright its hard to drive. Just returned from a 2 week course on police training. It was tough, even tougher with eye problems. Dr says its routine though, and age anymore really has nothing to do with it.
I would think that it would be possible to make an extractor on a pivot with an actual spring under the rear end.
Posted 30 May 2005 - 04:16 PM
"Life's too short to shoot crappy ammo"
Posted 31 May 2005 - 12:57 AM
Don't get me started on another Full vs Semi jaunt....
Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:12 AM
Yes, Semi Auto.
I was thinking the same thing when I was working on it yesterday.
Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:04 AM
I've never broken an extractor on either the full auto M1 or the '28A1, although I've laid in a couple of NOS spares just in case. I always remove the extractors when cleaning, especially after having gone through some corrosive surplus ammo. There's some extra flexing of the extractor going on with each cleaning, but this does not seem to have hurt things much.
It looks as though the bevel just in front of the extractor hook neatly contacts the case rim and moves up over it. I feel that there is some battering involved in semi auto extractor failures that just doesn't happen with the original autos. Could the extractor channel in these guns be cut just a little too deep, causing the extractor to strike the case rim a little too far up the bevel?
PK, have you any observations to make on this?
Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:33 AM
Posted 31 May 2005 - 03:39 PM
|QUOTE (21 smoker @ May 31 2005, 10:33 AM)|
|As massive as the STen bolt is,I have broken several using Wolf ammo....broke the ejector groove flutes on at least 5 bolts and finally gave up and just use brass case ammo....when this failure happens there is always schrapnel to deal with,anyone standing to the right of the shooter was injured..period...so it becomes more than just replacing parts...Wolf froze up my M16,blew the top cover off my UZI,bulged the barrel on my MAC10/45....Wolf may have a place where it is reliable and safe...I just haven`t found that place yet....|