Info On C Drum By Kahr
Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:37 PM
While asking Dottie about the status of my L drums, I also asked about the status of the C drum. I asked how that project was going and what would be the cost if they did sell C drums. She said that their head engineer was meeting (on June 7) with the only supplier who bid on the project. At this time they only had a "budget price" and it was too early to tell what the selling price would be. She did not come out and say that Kahr would definately sell the C drum.
I think we have members on this board who know who the "only supplier" is. Can anybody add anything to this message? Like who is the "only supplier" and what is the selling price thru Kahr likely to be?
Posted 16 June 2005 - 06:18 AM
Posted 16 June 2005 - 07:28 AM
Posted 16 June 2005 - 08:00 AM
Don't know if they are going to serial number them or not. Will try to remeber to ask Frank Harris when I speak to him next. I was very encouraged when I heard that they were using the vintage dies. This is a huge step in the right direction. There is still a bunch of variables that can make or break the job...quality of raw materials. Also some processes will still have some guesswork involved. Heat treating for instance...this was more of an art than a science back in the day. The prints I have seen said "Heat Treat". What hardness and temp is not specified. I hope that they get some good advice (Doug R. comes to mind) or do some testing to determin the proper thickness and rockwell. I will tell you one thing...I do like the sound of the pricing!
Posted 16 June 2005 - 11:17 AM
Posted 16 June 2005 - 02:03 PM
Posted 16 June 2005 - 02:33 PM
In conversation with Kahr I was told that they did not buy the C drum tools when they got everything else Thompson from NAC; perhaps they went back for a second dip.
Richardson is not involved to my knowledge.
Posted 16 June 2005 - 04:13 PM
PK...did not mean to suggest that Doug R. was involved...was just thinking out loud as to who I would have asked. Thanks for pointing that out...I did need to clarify. Actually I do not think that Doug would get involved with Kahr after the L drum flop and the Auto Ordnance name thing. As for the dies...they were not NIB...as I stated before...some were so worn that they had to be replaced. At least they are replacing them and not just using them anyway. They are aware of the problems with the NAC C drums and said that they were staying away from them while producing these.
Phil...I hear you man and agree. The L drums were a flop and was a real letdown to all of us that had our hopes so high and waited so long. There are some differences here...Tracie Hill is helping out and they have the original dies. This is a major step in the right direction. As 21 smoker pointed out....they did get slammed on drum returns. Frank Harris and I have spoke of this and he agreed that the returns were just bogging down the business and that they did not want to get into that situation again. Perhaps we made a difference there!
What I am hearing sounds very good but only time will tell. Hopefully I can see one run before they come out and get a better feel of them. Tracies help plus original dies plus learning a hard lesson when being bogged down with returns... hopefully = good C drums in october.