Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:48 PM
Anyone else lucky enough to attend and take note of other Thompson(s) and/or accessories that they are willing to share with the rest of us not blessed to travel this time?
Items for sale? Prices of same?
Posted 08 December 2003 - 09:19 PM
Posted 08 December 2003 - 10:23 PM
Posted 08 December 2003 - 11:35 PM
Yes Jim Streeter had his 2 Colt Thompson's there for sale. And yes he raised his price by $10,000 from the show in Louisville that he had them at a few month back. And yes Art they were re-blued with none original parts in them and no they are not worth the money. There was the $17k bridgeport M1 there just like the one I bought for $10k less. And yes there were Colt drums there that did sell, I know that was the table I was at, and one "C" drum sold for $5600 along with lots of other goodies. the torch cut kits sold for $4k each. And yes 1 went at the show and the others have a deposit. What most people don't get is that lots of people ask outrageous prices for this stuff and unless you have more money than sense or you are a doctor or lawyer or your family is rich, it won't sale at that price. You take it back and try again. Oh andd by the way the cases that were with the $30k guns are repro and we told me he had bought them in the mid 70's. I could not see why anybody in their right mind would call that show a dissapointment unless they just don't have fun with what they do or enjoy. nobody I have talked to at the show or after the show was dissapointed. Unless their stuff didn't sell because if was OVER FREAKIN' PRICED!
Posted 09 December 2003 - 12:34 AM
My characterization of the SAR show as being disapointing is based on the paucity of Thompsons, accessories, and BARs. Of course the SAR show provides an opportunity for firearms enthusiasts to chew the fat, but so do the usual Crossroads, etc shows. I guess my purpose in attending gun shows is to find particular items of interest. It does seem that some of the usual sellers thrive on maning a table for several days, while attempting to move tired merchandise with ever increasing fanciful stories. To me that gets old. I was in and out rapidly during the morning and did tmanage to talk to Gordon. Perhaps I will be able to attend a Tracy Hill show and meet board memebers.
Posted 09 December 2003 - 05:15 AM
And a C drum went for $5,600. My interest is as much to gauge the market as it is to see and actually when I am lucky enough buy Colt TMSG accessories if I believe it is reasonably priced to the market. Would even consider another Colt TMSG but not as likely unless the deal was right.
Posted 09 December 2003 - 10:13 AM
I had fun at the show, met quite a few folks and put a face to the voice. Prices were out of this world...but there were some good deals if you looked hard enough.
I think Eric's mini Thompson was pretty cool and wouldn't take much to make run...but I think the value is in its historical significance, whether the asking price is out of line I don't know.
Posted 09 December 2003 - 06:34 PM
Posted 09 December 2003 - 09:13 PM
My wife and I enjoy the show,it was a first time for us,true the prices on the tommy gun were high but it diden't spoil anything for us.The prewar L drums started at $950.00,
some rusted ones ( almost thrue ) $700.00,mismatch # C drums $3500.00 . N.Y. C drum
matching # $ 5000.00 Other than the two $30,000.00 21 Thompson I diden't see any more 21 for sale.Dated XX Mag. $100.00, lots and lots of XXX Mag from $10.00 to $ 45.00 each.
Gordon had a real neat poster of a 21 hanging on the wall behind his table, I would have loved to had,must have been 6ft. tall. I checked out my name in his great research book
that he was selling for $200.00 I believe. ( well worth the money ). Not a lot of Thompson
stuff there for a big show , Kent had some nice M1's there, don't remember the price.
I enjoyed talking to Merle,Mike,Gordon,Murry, Doug Richardson ( who is alive and well )
Bob Landies, Tom Cate( who has a million stories to tell ) and others. I did picked up some slings for a M1A1 thompson , $40.00, was hard to find at the show.
and last but not least got to rent a Harley and we had a hell of a good ride thrue the
beautiful desert,mountians and valleys. I'll go again !! Happy Birthday Mike, we diden't
get to share some brews this trip !!
Posted 09 December 2003 - 09:55 PM
Posted 09 December 2003 - 10:13 PM
P.S. Also, I did not know Murray's full name until now. Hum.., I'll have to do some internet research on him and his first gun collection (fascinating story). Unfortunately, Murray's attempt to send some documents, using PDF I think, through email, was not entirely successful earlier this year. I did not want to ask him again. Thanks again!!
Posted 09 December 2003 - 10:15 PM
Posted 09 December 2003 - 10:59 PM
P.S. Indeed, "The power to tax is the power to destroy!" Here is the link to the site: http//www.acepay.co.nz/pr010207.htm
P.P.S. Also, in the event someone thinks that I have betrayed a confidence, such is not the case (nor my intent). This was a very public case in New Zealand and Murray left a post on this board stating that if anyone wants more details on this to ask me (Walter), regarding the previously mentioned failed email contents. It is a very instructive example of too much arbitrary power in the hands of a government.
Posted 10 December 2003 - 08:19 AM
Posted 12 December 2003 - 06:06 PM
I had a great time at the SAR show and enjoyed every second of it.
There was some very good buys and most of what I purchased was on the set up day. I came home broke but got four nice "L" drums including a bridgeport in excellent condition for $750, and an un-issued Seymore still in the grease in its original box. Also a mismatched "L" drum Bridgeport cover and 1928 Colt case and rotor which goes nicely with a miss matched drum I had at home that did have a 1928 Colt cover and a Bridgeport Case so I now have two matching drums from two mismatched.
Got a excellent ORIGINAL 1921-1923 manual. plus heaps of other goodies including an 1906 American Eagle Luger at a very good price.
Met some great guys and Gals what great hosts you all were.
Posted 12 December 2003 - 06:13 PM
What edition on the manual? 1st, 2nd or?
Could you share what you paid?
Posted 12 December 2003 - 09:33 PM
The manual is circa 1923, and intitled "The Thompson Gun" as shown on page 369 of Tracie Hills' book fig., 436.
It has a grey cover with the black lettering inbossed on the cover. Condition is excellent.There is no edition number in the book. I believe is was the only edition
Price was $100.
My original gun collection was sold for $70,000 and was valued by Price Waterhouse at $NZ475,000.
It was the New Zealand Army Thompsons that were apparantly dumped in the sea, not my collection.
Posted 12 December 2003 - 09:40 PM
trying to keep in tune with the market