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#1 dalbert

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 03:03 PM

I recently purchased NFA transferable Reising Model 50 Submachine Gun serial number 10642, manufactured by H&R in 1942. It arrived at my door yesterday. It is a blued "Commercial" style Reising with a 29 fin barrel, older style rear sight, front sight with adjustment screw, non-thumbscrew takedown bolt, and side-mounted sling swivels. I bought it with a Federal Laboratories case, 5-20 round magazines, and 2-12 round magazines. It also came with an M-1 Carbine sling, a 1951 manual, and a couple of empty .45 boxes to fit in the slots for them in the case.





I also acquired from another source, a cleaning rod, and one of the rare soft cases shown on page 166 of Frank's Reising book. I forgot to include the 2-30 round Christie magazines that I bought for the gun in the pictures I took.

I've been collecting Reising paper items for several years, so I took some pictures of the gun with them. I wrote my first Small Arms Review article on Reising manuals, and it appeared in the July 2005 issue. You will see one picture of #10642 taken with some of my manuals, as well as another picture with several Reising advertisements.



There are 4 manuals in the following picture that have not been previously documented. From left to right, the manuals and sales flyers are as follows:

1: Early sales flyer - Has "2/1941" handwritten on it - This is the only one I have ever seen. (4 pages)

2 and 3: I have two of these early manuals - I have not seen any others - they show a forward pistol grip incorporated into the stock. One of them has a bunch of features crossed out in red to indicate features that were not produced. Some of these items are a flash hider, forward grip, a different sling, and different sling swivels. (16 pages)

3. 1941 Reising manual - This one is in Frank's book on the Reising. It still shows the flash hider, forward grip, different sling, and different sling swivels. (24 pages)

4. 1942 Reising manual w/ Army/Navy "E" Award sticker - This is the 47 page version.

5. 1943 Reising manual - This is the 48 page version, with the additional page advertising the Model 65 .22 caliber Reising.

6. 1951 Reising Model 50 manual (23 pages)

7. 1942 Reising manual in original H&R envelope

8. Original USMC Manual for the Reising Submachine Gun, Caliber .45, Models 50, 55 and 60, 1942 (25 pages)

9. H&R Reising sales flyer/manual, circa 1951 - This is a very interesting promotional item published by H&R, and it features a testimonial to the Reising's service and features by Brigadier General George O. Van Orden of Evaluators Ltd., in Quantico, VA. (10 pages cover to cover)

10. Canadian Army Service Information Bulletin for the Reising Machine Carbine (.45 Inch) (1 sheet, 2 pages)





The case and the gun are in really nice shape. The stock is varnished, and I don't think that was an original feature, but I will check this. If it wasn't, I'll probably strip the finish and linseed oil the stock.

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The transfer was received by ATF on 10/30, and was approved on 11/28. Pretty good for a major holiday during the transfer time. It's been many years since I purchased a new MG, so the improvement in transfer times is much appreciated. (I bought most of my MG's in the late 80's, when it usually took 3 months for a transfer)

Your thoughts on this Reising, and the paper and accessories collection are welcomed.

As an aside, I saw Reising Model 50, serial number 137 last week at the SAR Show in Phoenix. Very nice shape, and a very early gun. It was the best Reising at the show, in my opinion, and was priced at $4500. I saw it at Kent Lomont's table, and am not certain it's still available, but it would be worth an inquiry, if anyone is in the market.

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#2 levallois

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 03:10 PM

Impressive and beautiful.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 12:45 PM

Very nice and beautiful gun. I am impressed with your literature collection as well. I noticed your front sight adjustment screw. All the ones that I've seen are the allen head type. Is yours original? If so, that's something new that I've never seen before.

Also, any leads on an original cleaning rod would be appreciated as I am looking for one as well.

Edited by texasvwnut, 09 December 2007 - 12:47 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE(texasvwnut @ Dec 9 2007, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice and beautiful gun. I am impressed with your literature collection as well. I noticed your front sight adjustment screw. All the ones that I've seen are the allen head type. Is yours original? If so, that's something new that I've never seen before.

Also, any leads on an original cleaning rod would be appreciated as I am looking for one as well.


texasvwnut,

Thanks for your nice comments. I have always enjoyed paper items, as they provide documentary history of how firearms were developed, marketed, issued, and operated. I am an avid collector of Thompson paper items, and I also collect paper items associated with the Reising, S&W 76, ANM2/MG-40, and early AR-10/15/18 material. I also sell many other military firearm manuals and out of print firearm books, if you're ever looking for something in particular.

The front sight adjustment screw appears original in terms of matching the color of the sight, but I do not recall seeing another like it, either. I'll have to do some further research. Perhaps if anyone else on the board has one like it, or has seen one, they could chime in.

I don't know a source for cleaning rods, as the person I bought mine from had only one. They would be something to keep an eye out for at a gun show. You could also put an ad on the "Wanted To Buy Board" on Sturmgewehr.com, and perhaps someone might have one they would offer up for sale.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:41 PM

Thanks. I noticed the nice color match of the screw when I posted originally. Who knows, perhaps a substitution or maybe a very early design. If anyone else has one like this it would be interesting.
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:24 AM

Very nice display Dave,...interesting front site,I have #10688 and my site is simply staked,no adjustment screw and these were probably made at the same time...all the other features you show do match mine...very informative post,thanks. wink.gif
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