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Will be there 25th year. vendor { AND THE LAST}A long deserved retire and get out after over 50 years. it was still a good show last few years. As i seem to always sell out whatever i bring. price it right and have nice new stuff always seems to work. there are very few left there that started 25 years ago, I should know i always look for them. This year should be interesting since 30 days after the election. and phx trying to shut down shows on state property.. hope to see any of the old timers and new timers there. and have a nice 2024 what's left of it.

Bought a lot of guns from Doug back when. And i am sure i ended up with one of those AK'S HOWEVER FROM IRV KAHN IN OHIO. DID A TRADE WITH IRV. AND THE GUN ARRIVED. AND I SAID IT HADA GREEN TYPE FINISH TO IT. which was not correct. and looked at much More closely. AND IT WAS CUT NEAR THE MAG WELL. no other maker marks but the Chinese and paper said made in China. so called IRV said cut gun. must have better price. he said he bought it from a dealer that way. the gun had no pits or issues and functioned. i said ya know what the $2,000 bucks is fine. Since at that time AK'S you did not find. and low and behold R.J.Perry CALLS AND WORKS out a bad trade deal we had on a Solothurn 20mm AND SENDS ME 4 AK'S ALL BRINGBACKS. I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE COST TODAY... I MOVED THEM ALL OUT FOR AROUND $3,000 EACH.WAY BEFORE 1981,THANKS FOR POSTING THAT STORY. I JUST ADDED A LITTLE TO IT. as i am sure Irv sold me one of those. my first was a bring back. in 1971 and had to buy a mag from Curtis Earl. FOR 50 BUCKS. NOBODY HAD ANY. LET ALONE CRATES OF AMMO.

Johnny from wisc is right. a few collections today have post and pre with it as many as a 100 or more. i had around 45 or so. {and really they are just rentals} you own them as long as you have a license. a RENTAL COLLECTION. HOWEVER MOST TODAY IN CLASS 3 HAS THAT. AND THEY CAN SHOOT THEM A LOT. ALL FUN FOR SURE.JUST THINK YOU COULD HAVE THIS IN SAFE FOR A EASY $2 MILLION

Chicago trunk case. near the ell tracks near Wabash. went to visit over 40 years ago. they did some Chicago police cases. talked to the grand son who was running the place at the time. he told me of a few cases laying around, they tossed and got rid of years before. AND REMEMBERS THEM FOR GUNS. they did a lot of briefcase steamer trunk and instrument stuff, And i asked can you look for sure if anything is left. maybe in basement. He said no time and if anything was in that damp place long rotted or messed up. And i asked would you bother to do another/ he said at that time if they had sample they could. i never pursued anything afterwards, since he told me they had nothing. I am sure he's in his 70's by now and retired. it was a nice place. and of course updated. just a lil bit of history. and nobody took dates on cases. i have owned dozens of them including a original one/ Chicago police case.{ the one in Rogers book from 1982}sold to Erik fox and since sold to Jerry i think. MANY THINGS GET MOVED AROUND MANY DID BUY A LOT OF STUFF FROM ME LIKE A FEW CASES FIVE POUCHES OR BELTS SO MUCH WAS SPREAD AROUND OVER THE DECADES, HARD TO EVER KEEP TRACK. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN ON "THE QUEST"

Anybody buying in that period would be hitting around 82 today. figuring over the age of 20 looking. a few at 82 still dealing...tho probably not many. WE HAVE ANY 85 YEAR OLDS ON BOARD?VIC WOULD HAVE BEEN 95 NOW.

Earl had around 800 n.f.a. i went thru well over 125 Thompsons. let alone another few hundred class 3. BESIDES GOING THRU OVER 5,000 GUNS. MANY SURPASSED AND MANY NEVER CAME CLOSE. SO WHAT...no one cares.. He had great stuff at a great time. much better then the few who had like 20 guns and bragged they had over a 1,000 guns. There are a few Mideast collections that some have no clue about. 1 BILLION BUCKS...NUFF SAID. ALSO REMEMBER MOST AT THAT TIME BOUGHT AND SOLD AND TRADED. THEY >did not put away to gaze at all day. it was a product to sell. for $$$.. MEL BERNSTEIN SAYS HIS IS AROUND $40 MILL. I KNOW FOR A FACT THE WALMART GUY PAID AROUND $50 MILL PLUS. FOR A partial COLLECTION. THAT WAS worth OVER $500 MILL THAT GOT BROKEN UP, SOME ESTIMATED TO ONE BILLION.. AND SOME GUYS ARE HAPPY TO HAVE 2 THOMPSONS AND A BREN GUN...OR THIS.. ENJOY THE DAYS YOU HAVE its all old history anyhow.

Yes Curtis COLLECTION> I have some of the last pics of the vault. AND WHEN I OFFERED TO BUY ALL HIS THOMPSONS. TALKED FOR A EASY HOUR ON THAT SUBJECT WENT FOR CHINESE FOOD AND I PAID. AND WE RETURNED BACK TO HIS HOUSE MORE DISCUSSION.. AND I THINK WELL OVER 100 G AWAY IN PRICE WHEN I SAID. NO GOOD PROFIT MARGIN THERE. But it was a good time. NEVER DID THE STORY FOR SAR MAGAZINE.. THEY DID SOME OTHER STORIES AND I WAS BUSY WITH LIFE. And left it way back on the burner. and figured not many would have interest in it. it was nice to see the pics. have shots or Rogers place and also L.E.S. and a number of others. but was always too busy doing deals and not taking pics. was not doing books or stories....that was for somebody else. I was learning daily. buying, selling, trading. working magic.i remember when Curtis called me on my 1976 ad/ and said who are you? And i said Curt The Marine you picked up at the airport in 1971, AND WE TALKED FOR A EVENING at your home. I got pointers and did my own thing. And he asked you got that far this quick? Yes... and he bought five Thompsons. And later a few more.{ at that point we had a long stand battle} for 20 years.. and got back with no issues. and the hatchets buried. LOOKING BACK GOOD TIMES. I AM STILL HERE. THANKS FOR POSTING THE PICS. just think most of that is spread over the u.s. as not one person bought all of it. but i know a few he had still when i was there. {have to dig out the 35mm. no phone camera stuff when i was there}I know he had one 1927 left and he wanted me to pay him $25 g for that alone. when we came to price and it was nice i said take that off and keep it. already had #3798 was not looking for another.good times...

DAVID GOOD PIC NEVER TIRE OF THEM. Also i did see one of the Chinese guns well over 35 years ago what a piece of junk. it was a used n.v.a. jungle pickup. and fairly crude. with a stick 20 rd. magazine. probably in some museum today. and a number of non papered 21's. still intact and not being sold for parts. there was also a nice 1928 military Thompson. And i knew the guy{friend} who got busted with it. he went in his yard to shoot it in Chicago, neighbors called. he was taken away the next day. gun probably in chitown downstairs evidence drums. rusting away. have a good 2024 RON K.

The way i bought it is the way it sold. including the {E}grip and stock. the barrel issue was settled and inside the chamber area its marked #103. like the lower and frame.And same inside old parts like #98.. they removed the barrel to do that and also Gordon checked it out. and i do know somebody took steel wool to the side of it to clean it up also.{ before Jim got to it} I can be handed a Colt today i sold 40 years ago and tell you the issues. I TOLD MY BUDDY AT THE TIME TO OFFER Jim $30 G FOR IT.RIGHT AT SAR SHOW. Jim said to me Ron i just brought it here to show chuck and a few guys and you since you owned it. i have had probably ten guys do that over the years. even Colt chopper bought one of my old guns. which is one i liked and shot My Kansas city police guns the same.And the Dillinger lock up gun... I am glad they sold it so somebody else can enjoy it for 10 years or so. the owner is on here on this Ohio police one also. Which has a same serial wes hurley....

I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, HE BOUGHT STUFF FROM ME FOR AWHILE. and never returned a thing. it was a coal mine gun.check the books.

THE STORY WAS I REPLACED THE BARREL. i never replaced any barrel on the 100 plus Thompsons i ever sold. and one restored serial #894 had the original a 45 acp liner was put in it but the rest was original to the gun. a trick that was done 40 years ago. only one in thousands and thousands of sales accused me of shipping wrong gun and pics in Wisconsin. got my attorney said here is a refund check send the complete cased rig back #3171 i think. or 3471. its tough keeping 125 numbers in your head. and he said oh no i just want a few thousand back. well fu send It back 100% guarantee refund. attorney letter came back. THANKS I AM KEEPING IT. IF SOME REPLACED WOOD OR WHATEVER AFTER IT LEFT ME who knows? and on rodney buass who is gone Last owner of #98 same cond> 9315 Peru gun. REDONE BY THE P.D. anything i ever heard was nice gun RON thanks and they bought more. If anyONE bought something not right or they did not like... full refund right away. every week i get call or email on some Thompson. I HAVE BEEN OUT OF IT 15 YEARS.AND NOBODY IS CHASING ME FOR REFUND. AND EVERYBODY HAVE A NICE 2024

So that tells you sometimes you get the money back. Jim passed away i guess his estate got the $25 g he paid for the gun. cost me $5 g when i bought it. since i think there is a sellers prem now from MORPHYS, I have not seen #98 or #274 yet. for sale. Around 4 or 5 years ago Jim brought it to SAR show to show me the gun. and the barrel remarks on it. {which it was all correct.} someone told him not original barrel. I Miss him, a great man. AND AVID COLLECTOR. and he was proud of that gun... I know the deals and the trades and the numbers. it was good times.

Worry about the current state of life and to enjoy it in good condition. AND THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE.NOT SOME B.S. THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT SINCE 1934. and is likely to never change. what was that kids tune... it goes round and round?

NOTHING BURGER..move on, discuss labor day pronto pups. or...

four are deceased from that list Doug is getting long in the tooth.{nice guy} did bizz with him. In fact did business with all of above. Ron RUDIN FROM VEGAS gone also. they found his head in the desert, sad story. a real nice guy i did bizz with also. Dominic Tuminello east coast guy and Tom Clinton VERY FEW KNEW. BUT WAS A BIG BUCK GUY. ALONG WITH JOHN BLACK OUT OF TEXAS.THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES Bob Hope....

HEY TOM WE CONVERSED ABOUT THIS ALREADY{ON P.M.} HE WON'T BOTHER FOR INFO ON A GUN SO SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME. AND HE TURNED HIS RECORDS IN OVER 20 YEARS AGO. LIKE THE OTHER FOLKS I TOLD YOU ABOUT RETIRED AND THAT WAS LIFE FOR THEM THEN NOT NOW. ROB AS FAR AS I KNOW IS LONG OUT OF IT ALSO. LIKE I TOLD YOU ABOUT Mike from L.E.S. Roger same deal.we talked over 20 years ago. hey Ron nice hearing from you i have a law practice to run.. that is just the way it spins.

NOT PARAGON IT WAS THE MILITARY GUYS ON THE EAST COAST SELLING ALL THE GEAR AND HELMETS. i.m.o. or mil forgot the name they are still in bizz. also > HE WAS IN JOLIET,IL OUT OF HIS DADS BARN ON THE PROPERTY THERE.PROBABLY have a old issue like s.o.f. laying around. i took a bunch out and tossed them the rest i just gave away. too much poundage and too much room to stack away. heck i only kept the one sheets from my ads and threw the paper out.when i cleaned out storage locker i had ten boxes.I like kept 3 issues. YOU CAN PROBABLY BUY THEM ON EBAY NOW.ALONG WITH ALL THE REST.fun times for the reader...

FRED VOLLMER.

I always waited for nice stuff. junk was always around. SHOTGUN NEWS EVERY 2 WEEK AND GUN LIST MIGHT HAVE BEEN MONTHLY. AND OF COURSE THE NEWSPAPER M.G.NEWS. AND like a have dozen guys had paid monthly flyers. out of Indiana Colorado and Ohio. Lynn lugar irv kahn, roger cox, fred rexer bill harris,even bill york would send you stuff. and it was travel and phone calls and gun shows. with my other business and shows it was work 7 days a week. had a rolo dex with over 500 contacts. now 50 years later. less then a 100 are around sadly..I am sure a few did the same, but not very many.. police dept. and vet contacts always the best.most had been dabblers with a few guns. Like some are today.the kent lomonts reed knights and bob landies and many others are retired or someone else is doing it for them. heck Bob just had his 80th birthday. yeah fun times. even the knob creek tents back in the day. and a shovel and brass with Neal Smith.

i would if i could. i would buy them from SAM {Interarms} for five or more $400 bucks shipped.with about a 20% profit margin. which i did not think was high. and on some other guns put whatever i would. i also would buy Colt Thompsons when found 5 or more at a time. I rarely ever turned down any deals. And was buying all class 3 and also hundreds of semis. MANY WOULD NOT TOUCH SEMIS. HOWEVER THEY INCREASED pretty quick. so if it slowed down class 3 went and sold many a semi. and i bought them all. one time a big time guy wanted to off load over 100 pistols Sig. Beretta, Walther, COLT & Smiths. some guys passed i took them all. and after the deal was done we go into another room 100 ak's norinco.legends, took them all.. sold them the same week. $10 g profit. when you wheel and deal quick and guys are selling you just buy it. there are a few guys like that today. but they ain't buying 10 Thompsons $500g most that have that coin to flip that quick.are looking for steal a dea. the way of 2024

Yeah no junk all matching and no dewats or reblues I sold five m1s to Earl for $2500,AND HE LIKED IT.. HA HA { MET HIM IN 1971} SO RECON BOB CAN SAY YEAH THEY HAD BEEN THE GOOD OLE DAYS.I wish i could have had all that back for the guys on the forum. they would be happy. only really 3 or 4 guys did Thompsons at that time. And they did not like my pricing SAID TOO CHEAP. Did not care i was selling guns and buying twice as fast.GOOD TIMES.

I HAVE A FEW SWISS INVICTA WATCHES THAT CAN STOP BULLETS.{the guys that own them know all about it}

Ron's Guns. Arm Ltd. ARMCO, and RKARMS.. i had a number of companies. also had a book dept and production Chicago Typewriter. Company. and a Insurance agency and investigation claims dept. going back over 50 years. and a number of my ad's in shotgun news mg news and playboy magazine. AND A CATALOG OF GUNS IN 1980. ALL OLD HISTORY THATS NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANYMORE. BUT YEAH I DID IT. AND HAD FUN WITH IT.MANY BOUGHT I STUFF THROUGH ME THAT NEVER KNEW IT CAME THROUGH ME. ALSO DISB FOR MAGNUM RESEARCH. AND LANDIES FROM OHIO ORD. AND STEYR IN 1982/83 AND CLAYCO AKMS FROM CHINA. So yeah Bob i can talk about the good ole days... since you asked. have a good 2024.RON K.

SPARKS I FEEL FOR YOU SOLD A BUNCH NEW KITS HERE WELL OVER 10 YEARS AGO ALONG WITH A TON OF UNISSUED POUCHES AND BELTS 20 RD 30 RD ALONG WITH NEW MAGS INCLUDING PATENT DATE.YES I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THE GUYS TODAY. THEY GET STUNG BUYING WHATS LEFT FROM ALL OVER THE AND TODAY ITS BEAT RUSTED CUT UP CHOPPED.I MUST HAVE SOLD A 100 ,100 RD DRUM CASES WITH STRAP ALL NEW. ALONG WITH 200 PLUS 50 RD CASES MILLS AND RUSCOAND U.S. MARKED. SAME DEAL.EVEN AT SOME LOCAL SHOWS NOW BLOOD STAINED, WORN, NO CARRY STRAP. I WALK AWAY SHAKING MY HEAD.SOME MAY THINK I AM A AHOLE. THATS FINE I HAD THE STUFF AND THEY BOUGHT IT IN DROVES. AND MANY CAME BACK FOR MORE AND TOLD THE FRIENDS I WON'T BUY, SO THEY COULD SNATCH IT UP INSTEAD. AFTER 50 YEARS IN THIS BIZZ YOU GET THAT WAY. AND IF SOME TELL YOU NOT THEY ARE F.O.S.EVEN TO SO CALLED BIG GUYS LEFT. DO THE SAME BECAUSE I HAD DEALS WITH ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. AND VERY FEW EVER PASSED. THEY ALL BOUGHT.JUST NOW ITS A WAY DIFFERENT WORLD. AND I HAVE MY STORY AND TALE ON EVERYONE OF THEM... NOW ITS BUY WHATEVER IS OFFERED OUT THERE OR GET A GOOD IN, WITH A OLD TIME COLLECTOR WHO SELLS OUT. A LOT OF PERRY'S STUFF ENDED UP WITH CHARLIE AND GEMINI. WITH APEX. AND BOWMAN HAD OTHER SOURCES. MEL HAS SOME GREAT STUFF RATHOLED AWAY IN COLORADO WITH NO INTENTION OF SELLING OFF. SO WISH YOU LUCKY FINDING SOME DEALS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE CONNECTIONS TIME AND MONEY. BUT NO SOUL SELLING SO YOU SHOULD BE GOOD. HAVE A NICE 2024.RON K.

LEFT SIDE, RIGHT SIDE, UPSIDE DOWN WHO CARES. WE ARE NOT STORMING ROMMEL IN NORTH AFRIKA. i hope that was not more then like $395.00 if so. i will have to get back into the game. just had a batch offered. over a 1,000 guns ..for $200 bucks. i guess the money now is in selling garb aged out junk. and all my decades i was selling mint or unissued. WHAT A FOOL