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  1. When I get mo info I'll let you guys know. I'll go for some pictures as requested and when I get them I'll start a new thread/subject.
  2. Awhile back I got hooked on this board and I got my first Thompson a year ago. It is a 1928 with both British and Dutch proofs. (Pre lend lease and I still can't quite figure it out) I now have located an M1 at a very attractive price. It is an Auto Ordinance serial number SNJ 089xx. Sounds early or bogus. I have not yet seen the gun as it is a bit of a long drive. Since everyone steered my in the right direction last year, thank you all, I was hoping someone could give me some information on this gun. I really think I now need an M1 or M1 A1. Approximately when was it made etc?
  3. Solid Aluminum MP44 Dummy Reciever from IMA available. $175.00 plus actual shipping cost. Trade possible. Need MP43/44 bolt head, Mags and pinned type SKS barrel. Tokarev@aol.com
  4. If this group buy becomes a reality, I will take at least one drum.
  5. I made contact with Bob @ Tankride and he was extreemely helpful. I will be attempting the 7.62x39mm conversion as soon as I get the two required parts. If I am successful I will post results on this site. Hank
  6. A few months ago I put out a request on this site for an Mp43 barrel to be used in reactivation of an Mp43 dewat. I found the barrel and now the gun is legally activated and just waiting to rip. Problem as usual with these fine guns is ammo. I have 80 original WW2 german steel cased rounds in boxes with stripper clips but I am very hesitent to use any. I recently had a 9mm black bullet WW2 steel cased round blow the case and lodge the round in a Sterling barrel. Fortunately, the following round did not fire. I an not willing to risk this fine piece. Cutting down cases, forming and reaming is a slow process. Bullets are also a problem. I would like to propose some possible alternate solutions. Before I found an original barrel in exc. condition, a gentleman contacted me through this site about a barrel he had recently made. Unfortunately I cannot find his address and cannot reach him. If he can make a new barrel in 8MM Kurz, why not in a wildcat shortened 7.62x39 or for that matter any other short case? I have an extra barrel that has its chamber welded. How about a sleve for it? The caliber is fairly low velocity and should not be a problem. There are a lot of welded Mp43 barrels around. The advantage would be in bullet and bullet mold availability, easy resizing, no reaming and an easy long neck cut off. Velocity would be a bit lower but so what, the back stop will never know the difference. On the down side, the bolt head may have to be changed or remanufactured to accommodate the slightly smaller 7.62x39 head. If anyone has any imput I would appreciate any ideas on the subject. I understand there are a few new short cases available now that may be a better choice. I am not up on all the new shorties. Would the gentleman who makes Mp43/44 barrels please contact me at Tokarev@aol.com.
  7. The 28 has a Bridgeport address. Matching upper and lower. Came from Recon Ord. Sorry, no help on the extractor, it looks both smooth and flat. I don't know what I'm looking for here. I don't know if gun ever was in any police department. I will try to get some pictures in the next few days. What about the Crown-W proof. Was it put on the gun at the factory or at the country that bought the gun? If Netherlands was taken over by Germans in 1940 and if this is a 1941 gun, how did it get the W proof? The British proofs marks sense but not the Netherland proof also.
  8. I fired my 1928 last night. Runs great with the Russian Silver Bear. No problems at all. I know now (I have been scolded) that I should not use that stuff so I will not do that anymore. Where can I get some decent .45 ammo befitting the stature of my gun. Hay guys, I made a post for help back on May 18th about my New Thompson. Has anyone figured out how this gun could have both British proofs on the left side and the Dutch Crown-W on the right side. All educated guesses will be appreciated.
  9. I finally got to pick up my 1928 Thompson today. I spent all day on the road and got backed into on the way home. With sn. # S-110770 I believe it to have been made in April of 1941. It has all early features including the verticle front grip. I believe the butstock to be wrong as it has the cross bolt and stamped sling swivel. It has no US prefix or A1 suffix. Just a plain old 1928. Here is where I need help. The right side has broad arrow and a few other British proofs including a crown over what looks like 67. The left side has the typical GEG but also the W-Crown from the Netherlands identical to that pictured on page 67 of American Thunder. If the Netherlands fell to Germany in 1940, how did the gun get the Crown-W proof? Was it really made in 1941? I thought this type proof was added by the receiving country not at the factory. At least I thought that applied to British guns. I am happy with the gun and if this rain ever stops I intend to blast away tomorrow. Any help would be much appreciated.
  10. Maybe I can help. I really don't want to get into a pissing contest here but I have a copy of a BATF letter stating what can or should I say must be done to make a dummy out of a MG42 parts kit. There are numerous things that must be done to satisfy them. One of the key mods. is that 1" must be removed from the receiver. The letter does not state from which portion of the receiver the inch must be taken. The simplest way is to remove the bad inch from the forward portion of the receiver which turns one of the oblong vent holes into another round vent hole. Be careful to insure there is a oblong hole left on bottom in correct location for bipod to clip into. The barrel must be shortened one inch to accomodate shortened receiver. Any barrel can be and must be welded in. Even one of those CMP 03 or 03A3 drill rifle barrels with some washers on both ends for spacer/ support. It is a shame to waste a good barrel or bolt on the project. Some people either weld the bolt in place or weld a plate in the rear portion. Nothing can function in the piece including the barrel swaping part. Eastwoods makes a self etching metal primer paint that blends well with the original blueing for a cheep easy final finish. The resulting piece looks good for what it is, a 25 lb. club. When you cut out the 1" piece, it is a hell of a lot easier to weld that area back together than the original 1/4" wide torch cuts. Use coat hanger to help bridge the gap. Perfect alignment not important, it is never intended to shoot anyway. You can even bridge weld the parts and fill in the gaps with bondo or JB Weld. Only things that work are the trigger, butt removal and top cover opens. It will look great on one of those post war AA Tripods with a 50 round belt of ammo dangling from it. If anyone is interested in this project drop me a line and I'll dig up that letter and send you a copy for CYA purposes. This is how I.I. of N. Carolina made up their dummies they were selling at Knob Creek for $800. When you finish this project, It will not be readily restorable. Taking an inch out of the receiver insures that. Fortunately, the receiver of an MG42 is the whole tamali. Not like a Bren or a BAR. Now, can anybody tell me how to make a non gun or dummy gun out of a 1919 Browning? What is the dummy sideplate all about. As I understand it, no inch is removed from that reciever.
  11. I need to find a good vertical grip. Prefer military early WW2 style if there is a difference. I was at the Show of Shows in Louisville this weekend looking at the various new made replacement grips. They all felt wierd, kind of like they were made by the Frogs. Does Numrich arms make a decent replacement grip? If not who does?
  12. On this mag deal lets try to think out of the box. Instead of modifying mags to fit the gun, why not modify the gun to fit the mag. Grease gun mags are too thick, thompson mags need the feed end pinched. Why not find an extra lower mag receptical and cut if off and weld on a new piece to accomodate another easily obtainable mag. Some enterprising individual might even tool up to manufacture a complete replacement unit. As I understand it, the guns can be modified, the mags cannot.
  13. I have a mod. 55 complete with stock. I had considered making some reproductions of the stock. I need to get some idea as to what the demand would be and what people would be willing to pay. To keep cost down and my personal involvement to a minimum I had considered offering a semi finished kit. I have a guy already set up to do the wood. The metal is a different story. Some stamping, some welding and a lot of CNC lathe work. It is the set up that is expensive and some volume would be necessary. The question is what will people pay? If anyone has any interest in 55 stocks, Email me at Tokarev@aol.com
  14. I just purchased one barrel and the MP43 marked mag. I'll let you all know how things work out. I still need a rear sight and a ejection port cover. They no hava. Does anybody have these parts?
  15. I have been reading about all the good luck and fun you fellas have been having with your Sterlings and I want to get in on the action. I have VG Sterling parts kit and am about to spring for $3,200 DLO tube. How about some phone numbers and contacts of recommended builders that I can have the tube shipped to. I'm in SW Ohio but that really doesn't matter too much. What is the cost range I can expect to pay for the build using a DLO tube? Have any of you experienced case head bulging? I know of a guy who builds a Sterling lookalike but has designed it to use Sten not Sterling mags because of the deep throat of the Sterling barrel. He offered a silenced version to me for $4,500 in either 9MM or .45 cal. I'm real tempted. The .45 model uses grease gun mags. Interesting.
  16. I finally got a new condition tripod. That address is www.FGSINC.8.M.com Sorry. Typo
  17. How about welding a 12 rd. mag on top of a ppsh drum? Some internals will also have to be changed.
  18. I live in Cincinnati and need a Break. How can I contact Paul Hayes?
  19. Probably right Arthur, probably right. But with all this nit picking, I think you may have missed the point that I was trying to make. Sorry and shame on me, I didn't even think about semi auto WHs. What was your first auto? Mine was not a Rolls. I aint no lawyer sir and I don't try to talk or think like one. As someone stated earlier, "It really doesn't matter" and lets lighten up a bit. I'm out of here. Hank (The new kid just trying to fit in.)http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif
  20. Phil, Let me know where you are in Ohio. I too am a worthless nut. Read Buckeye. I had no idea the Kahr was such a piece of C###. I almost baught a M1 version last month that a neighborhood cop had turned into a SBR. I went and looked at it. Gun looked great complete with pinned front sight. It was offered for $775.00 and I pay tax. Since Kahr now offers this rig for $1,350 I thought it to be a good deal. Two days later I saw that he had reduced his price to $750.00. Gun was listed on non NFA section of SUBGUNS.con. I immediately called him and he told me he changed his mind and decided not to sell the gun. Go figure. Probably for the best. What really bothers me is the indecision of our local police officers. How do they operate on the job? The trigger pull was like a long bad antique revolver. I agree with you that poor quality firearms do more harm than good. I will not thank God for Kahrs any longer. With reference to my MP43. It is early fxo Sn. 25xx dated 1943. I do not shoot it. I have 5 boxes of original ammo at 15 rounds per box in the strippers. I am planning to reload for it and use self control and shoot it like a semiauto. I keep it because of its historical value. Did you see that one went for $19,000. I don't believe it. My gun is still in legal Dewat form and all I need is a barrel and I will send gun to Ohio Ord. for fix and pay the big tax. There is one on the market right now for $18,000. I believe these gun are $9,000 guns. What do you think? Hank
  21. I have done a whole lot of looking in the past two weeks. If it is an average kind of gun I would think 10 K is about right. If it is super crisp add a couple Gs. Try to find a doctor or better yet a lawyer and you might get real lucky. That always worked in the Luger business. No reason Thompsons should be any different. Hope I didn't offend any doctors or lawyers out there. I guess most of them just don't have the time to really get into this kind of stuff. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif Hank
  22. Since my original post started this discussion I thought I would chime in here at the end if this is the end. I took a little different approach to this discussion. I'm afraid it was purely selfish and monetary in nature and I'm almost sure true collectors will find it of little interest. Problem is I stuck it at the tail end of the "getting young folks hooked" post and I'm too lazy to type it here. Since this thread went this direction it probably would be just as, if not more relevant here. Please excuse the typo on KAHR. Hank http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
  23. This is my two cents on getting young people involved. After many years a member in the CTCI (Classic Thunderbird Club International) I resigned last year. The club was run by a bunch of narrow minded old dinosaurs. They would not reccognize any Thunderbird unless it was a so called "Classic" The Corvette club and the Mustang club on the other hand has a young and growing membership. The last straw was when the elitists in the club would not accept the new two seater T Bird as a "real" T Bird. Sound familiar? Dinosaurs die out with no replacements. FYI no replacements or Turtles as we called them in the Army means no one to replace us and buy our T Birds or Thompsons when we are ready to sell them. Thank God they still make Mustangs, Cobras and Corvetts. Thank God for Westies. Thank God for KAR. How does anyone expect a normal young person to become interested much less an active participant in this very expensive hobby without them? Once they get hooked they can trade up on the appreciation their entry level gun is making. If they don't make that first buy, the price escalation will leave them in the dust. I have listened to this ongoing debate about real vs. unreal Thompsons since Dec. 20 when I joined this forum. I have learned a lot. I believe the more people in this game the better for everyone and the younger the people the brtterer for everyone. Some of you folks need to lighten up just a little or they will bury you with your 21s because there will be no one to take them off your wifes hands at a price you told her it would be worth. As I said at the beginning of this post, just my two cents. Please give it some thought. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif Hank
  24. First of all, thanks for the correction on date of manufacture. I am pleased with this new knowledge. Mr. Richardson told me that there wrere a few "bugs" that had to be worked out with the earliest guns. Secondly, I need to make a correction of my own. The gun is "almost" unfired, only 4 boxes through it (200 rds.) I guess that's like being "almost" pregnant. So now this baby is "Almost" New in the Box with all the manuals etc. The plot thickens. Second problem is that I am supposed to be first on the list. First right of refusal as it goes. Supposedly there is a line behind me. After seeing everyones reaction I don't doubt it. I really am new at this and I don't know how anyone could take my place in this line. If someone knows, tell me. Third problem is that I was pretty much decided on passing on this little jem until you "non purists" got a hold on me. I really need to S---- or get off the Pot by Monday morning. I have requested much more detailed info. on the gun as to its content of any GI parts. When my son gets home, I will see if he can help me copy the pix to this board. I had hoped some of the TSMG board "purists" might have some constructive imput here. Maybe they get on later in the day. Oh will, it really doesn't matter what they say, because this is not a choice of either, or. The choice is, do I really want to be a pig and go for both. Mike, I got your e-mail. I see you are in my state. I need to talk to you. I will answer soon. Hank http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
  25. Over the past few weeks I have launched an extensive searth for a Thompson. In my wanderings I have stumbled onto this forum and it has been a very enjoyable and informative experience. As I wrote earlier, I am pretty much commited to a 1928A1 with matching upper and lower. One of the people I talked to early in my quest re contacted me yesterday. He offered me a new in the original box West Hurley with serial number 614A for $8,600 and SELER pays $400. worth of taxes. This gun also has a real Lyman rear sight and shows some figure in the wood. Since this is such an early WH, (1975 or first year of production) could this sight be a surplus part and if so, how many other GI parts might be in the gun? Also included with the gun is 0ne 20, one 30, and one original Bridgeport drum all in new condition. Seems like a good buy to me and I was tempted but I think I'm going to pass on it. If anybody else has any interest in this gun let me know. I will forward the pix and info. Hank
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