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SG pulled the same stunt with me about a year and half ago. I ordered about 5K rounds of various calibers. One week went by, then two, then three . . . finally I called to check on my order and was told that my order was too large and it must be a commercial order which would mean losing my discount and paying more shipping (the way in which they calculate shipping is pretty unrealistic with large ammo orders, but hell it's SG's calculation not mine!). Nothing I could say would change their mind that I MUST be a dealer. So, I told them to go a fly a kite, or something to that effect. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif Another thing: they lied and said they contacted me by email and phone to notify me that there was a problem with my order. Well they had all the correct contact info--I double-checked that; but, I never got an email or a call (no number on caller ID either). Three words for SG: Bait and switch, bait and switch, bait and switch . . . . Do business with them enough and you'll see what I'm talking about. Sam

Ditto on the contract--short and simple (one page or less) will do. Be sure to include language binding both party's heirs/assigns to the deal. These transfers can take months and lots of things can happen in a few months' time. As others have already mentioned, you definitely want to get a copy of the seller's Form 3/4 to prove it's his and in his hands now. Many dealers will advertise guns that are in transfer to them, but not yet approved. Also, ask him to box up all parts except the registered barreled receiver and send them to you now. This will help insure that the seller and his buddies don't go out for one (or more) last hurrah and shoot the crap out of YOUR $14K SMG. The aforementioned did happen to an acquaintance resulting in a squib round and a bulged original barrel in his Savage '28A1. Congratulations on your purchase! HTH Sam

And what about that funny looking square profile oiler that came with the kits. I see it in the same picture that Brian refers to in Frank's book. Are both of these items for the TSMG or are they Russian? Sam

A firearm is a C&R if 50 plus years old. >>>>>> As set out in the regulations (27 CFR 178.11), curios or relics include firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories: 1.) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; 2.) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and 3.) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less. http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/intro.htm

If you have a corp. entity, you can make it the C&R licensee. Transfer C&R Title II weapons to the corp. About as quick and painless as it gets for a non-SOT.

I know one sheriff's deputy here locally who carried a TSMG in his patrol car up until the early to mid 80's. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Of course, the same fellow also carried a BAR (confiscated, not purchased) from time to time too. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif

Just saw a story about this on Fox News tonight. All I can say is--I'm disgusted. FN interviewed some of the so called student leaders. Their comments ranged from, "it's not like he (Boyington) is a celebrated actor or artist," and "we should not be honoring someone for killing," etc. Excuse me? Are they so brainwashed by Hollywood that they think the only people worth honoring are actors? Uggghhhh! I don't understand it. Those that are opposed to the memorial are so far removed from reality that I honestly don't know what I could say to these ignorant fools if I had the opportunity to try and change their minds. What has happened? Is this what most of our kids are like now? If so, then I am truly concerned for the future of this wonderful country. If Pappy Boyington and thousands of other brave men and women hadn't killed as many Germans, Italians, and Japs as fast as humanly possible, these fruitcakes would not have the opportunity to attend UW and voice their (wacko) opinions freely today. Incidentally, I met Pappy a number of times and I must say he never failed to come off as one of the biggest assholes I've ever met. However, I'm still damned glad he got busy killing Japs for his country when it needed him most; and his service should be honored now and forever. Sam

Beautiful wood! Very nice! It is walnut, I assume? How much would a full set like cost? You can email me through the board link if you prefer. Incidentally, my Brit '28A1 has the front swivel on the left as well. Sam

Jesus, Phil. Are you actually trying to run the guy off??? Take it easy.

Oh, nevermind. Now I remember why I seldom post anything. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

QUOTE not many u-haul's behind a hearse Here's one: http://www.hunt101.com/img/371098.jpg http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Paragraph two of the ATF letter is crystal clear as to what an individual may do regarding manufacturers markings. ATF, Tech Branch simply declined to make a ruling on this specific firearm. That's the way I read the letter. I'm not sure whether or not you'd consider me a "prudent person," Phil; but I am a lawyer. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif Incidentally, the statement, "an individual may not re-mark or change a serial number in any way" is interesting considering that it is not uncommon to move serial numbers around on a firearm without any alteration of the number the itself. Sam

Neat pix! Thank you for posting them. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Wish I had a Willy's. Sam

Sorry, what I said may not have come out quite right. The Army films are black and white, have poor lighting (think film noir) and are kinda grainy; however, you will be able to learn how to disassemble the lower and put it back together again from watching it. I figured it out in a few minutes with NO manuals or additional assistance of any kind other than the tape. It just could have been better and while I haven't seen it, I feel pretty sure the AGI video will be better being in color, with good lighting, etc. Truthfully, once you have taken your lower apart and put it back together, you'll see that it isn't a big deal at all; so don't worry. That is why I said I'm waiting for someone else to offer the AGI video at a cheaper price. I don't NEED it anymore to understand how to maintain my Thompson; but I do think it would be a nice reference to have around. Personally, I think the Army films are interesting from a historical standpoint too. There are films on shooting technique, in depth coverage of how the TSMG functions using cut-away models, and other aspects of the gun besides just disassembly. I think you'll be pleased with it. Sam

I'm patiently waiting for Brownells or one of the other resellers to get the AGI DVD. It should be much cheaper, especially with the C&R. However, cheaper or not it should be much better than the grainy black and white Army films. I had to rewind mine many, many, . . . many times (did I mention I had to rewind it several times???), pause it, and get right up to the TV screen to be able to see what the heck the the actor/armorer was doing with the lower receiver.

I bought a compilation of Army training films on VHS off Ebay. Here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...6400784878&rd=1 Also, AGI recently started offering a DVD which covers the Thompson. At this time I think it can only be purchased directly from AGI here: http://www.americangunsmith.com/ HTH! Sam

Norm, A couple of additional points for you to consider. First, if you buy many C&R NFA weapons and have a corp. entity set up to be transferee, you may wish to get the C&R license in the business name. Now, before someone jumps on me and claims that this creates the appearance of being engaged in the business of dealing in firearms; I must point out that I have a C&R in the name of one of my corp.'s. It is a not engaged in the "business" of buying/selling firearms, and such is abundantly clear. It is actually engaged in agriculture. Not to mention the fact that the ATF approved the application in the business name with no questions asked. Obviously, being licensed in this manner removes some of the hassle of buying C&R NFA firearms, i.e. no fingerprints, no sign-off, no picture required. Second point and one that often appears to be overlooked in internet discussions involves the bound book you will have to maintain as a licensee. If you get a 03 FFL, you will get a "welcome" kit which includes a bound volume of firearms regulations. In it you will find the various approved formats for bound books with respect to each type of FFL. As far as I know, there is no pre-printed bound book (such as you may have seen for sale in SGN or GunList) that follows the proper format for a C&R licensee. There is a difference between the information required and the manner in which it is recorded between a type 03 and type 01(dealer) FFL's as well as the others. If you will look around on the 'net, you should be able to find sample pages prepared by others that are correct. That is what I did years ago when I first got my C&R, and I've just made copies of it since as needed. Or, you can create your own following the format in the "Green" book of regulations. I realize that we C&R holders probably aren't very high on the .gov's list of things to be concerned about. So, in all likelihood no one will ever know or care precisely which format you're using to log guns. However, I just wanted to alert you to the fact that there is a difference. You can use that information however you wish. Also, you should be aware that by law the ATF has 60 days to act on your application for a license. So, if you're still waiting after 60 days, send them a polite email citing the applicable CFR. That should spur them along. I know because I had to do it when I first applied for mine. Yes, you can file an application to amend FFL (I believe that's what it's called) to change your address once you move to MO without reapplying. Oh, and . . . . . . . . . Welcome to the club, Cruffler! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Sam

QUOTE (Arthur Fliegenheimer @ May 4 2005, 09:59 PM) This is an historic moment. I concur with JJ. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

Natchez Shooters Supply is where I get a lot of my ammo. Haven't bought any .45 in awhile but I believe Sellier and Belloit is around $8.25/box in case quantities, no tax, plus actual shipping. It's boxer,brass,230 gr. FMJ, etc. Very good ammo. HTH

What????? No one has any comments about John Jr. shooting a WEST HURLEY SEMI???!!!!!! When I took those pics I figured they would start a ten page thread all by themselves!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

And since John forgot to tell you . . . I set off the tannerite with a Rem. LTR in .308 Win. You are correct--a high velocity round is required to make it go boom. We also threw one in the river that runs alongside the range thinking maybe we could have a fish fry that evening after the shoot. It exploded but there were zero casualities.

Aside from things that require a M-16 lower, the Browning 1919 is a nice beltfed. For a reg. MG they can be had fairly cheap (sideplate gun, not a C&R). In 8mm they're cheap to feed. And it is pretty easy to make them run, i.e. they are not as finicky as some other beltfeds. Go ask about them over on subguns.com--you'll get a lot of info. I think there is a message board devoted to 1919's but I don't know what it's called. Maybe you can do a search and find it. HTH

QUOTE (JimFromFL @ Mar 7 2005, 06:14 PM)I took a closer look at the drum during lunch and guess what. There is a very small pimp like bump on the inside edge of the track. Does the bump look anything like this>>> http://www.ofb.net/~epstein/sl/0401/20040101b-closeup.jpg or maybe this>>> http://www.seussaza.org/oftheday/pimp.jpg If so, that's some pretty cool graphics. It's much more interesting than "Wind to 9 or 11 Clicks!" http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Just messing with you!

Rubber gloves + really hot water + soap + old toothbrush to scrub inside mag body. As if you didn't have enough suggestions already but it does work! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif

Perhaps John Jr.'s sudden increase in activity on this forum can be explained by observing the time stamps on his posts? Posted on Feb 2 2005, 01:21 AM Posted on Feb 2 2005, 01:34 AM Posted: Feb 3 2005, 12:51 AM Posted: Feb 3 2005, 12:49 AM Posted: Feb 3 2005, 12:48 AM Etc. Up late, errr early were you, John? Ok now, step AWAY from the Miller Lite can. LOL!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif