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I have seen countless pictures of the Remington Model 11 Riot Gun being used by local police, sheriffs and the FBI throughout the 1930s. And yet, despite years (granted, only a few years) of searching, I have never seen an original Model 11 Riot Gun bearing a serial number which dates it to the 1930s or earlier. I’ve seen plenty of M11 riot guns marked with a U.S. Ordnance cartouche or a stamp that says “MILITARY FINISH” but those all bear SNs dating them to the 1940s. So, what happened to all the old Remington 11 riot guns used by law enforcement agencies all over the nation in the 1930s? I know it is pretty common practice these days for government agencies to destroy all obsolete or non-working firearms that they possess, but that can’t be what happened to all of them. Does anybody on here own one? Has anybody ever seen one, and if so, do you have any pictures?
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With David's permission, I have 4 replica Thompson cases I'd like to offer to board members before listing them. These are new cases with N.O.S. hardware and replica leather handles. Each model is a carefully hand crafted representation of the original item. All are discreetly maker marked to identify them as reproductions. These are very accurate reproductions. Unfortunately, some of the old stock hardware, key to Thompson cases, is nearly gone so there won't be many more of these. If you've been considering a reproduction case, now's the chance. The FBI case and Alabama cases are ready for immediately shipment. The Police and Indiana models are ready for the velvet interiors. Buyer can select the interior color for either of these cases. Original case velvet colors in stock are; royal blue, royal purple, black, red, and green. It takes about 4-5 working days to complete the interiors once a color is selected. FBI case pictured below. PM me with your email for questions or pictures of the other cases. Price per case is $650 plus shipping. Thanks, Greg Fox
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As I have mentioned previously, a search of FBI released documents I obtained clearly reveal that the hard cases for the Bureau's Thompsons, rifles and other long guns were first manufactured by the Kansas City Trunk Company in the fall of 1935. The Bureau was looking for two things; the lowest bid but also the highest quality. Three bids from companies at the time were required by U. S. Government regulations; a procedure that last time I looked, is still in place today. The Bureau's liason with the Trunk Company was SAC E. E. Conroy of the Kansas City field office. His son, Ed, is a retired FBI agent today living in the South. For those doing further research, I've located a document during another review I thought you should have. I'm making the document available here, but as you'll see it clearly reveals that the Kansas company was revealing itself, name wise, in confusing documents during the payment process. Conroy was requested by HQ to ensure this got straightened out. See the attached document and keep this - and the names - in mind in your future research efforts. I have not done any research beyond the 1930s regarding "hard cases" used by the Bureau and who may have picked up the ball in later years. As some of you know, the specs for the original Thompson case, and others, can be found at our website at: historicalgmen.squarespace.com Best, Larry Wack FBI (Ret. 68-03)
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Good Morning folks: For those interested, I've just finished a paper on the abrupt and fearless character of SA Charles B. Winstead. This paper and the portrait we attempt to paint of Winstead is a result of my own exam of his FBI personnel file. If any of you had some type of "vision" of what Winstead did/didn't look like or act like, this will probably either enhance that or totally demolish your "vision." Stop by our site to retrieve your copy here: http://historicalgmen.squarespace.com/sa-charles-winstead-abrupt-fe/ Enjoy the ride! Larry Wack FBI (Ret.) '68-'03