Mg42 Demilled Reciever

[timg953]

I'm looking for a demilled mg42 reciever for a dummy project. The Alleganny Arsenal parts sets have excellent parts but the recievers are too butchered even for a dummy. Anybody have one they want to part with or someplace that might have one?

[mp40]

Hi,timg953. You are aware that the ATFE takes a dim view of the use of original reciever parts in the construction of a dummy machinegun, no matter as to what extent, aren't you? Or at least this was true...

[jungle jim]

a welded up receiver from a parts kit for a gun that will fire is illegal! right? then how come i read about people doing that? also you mention weld up receivers are frowned on for dummy guns. what exactly is legal, do most people just take a chance on rewelding a parts kit for the oportunity to own a desired piece of history? a serious answer will be appreciated.

[mp40]

The ATFE considers the use of original reciever parts as intent to remanufacture a prohibited firearm. I know that many people do not know that this is illegal and risk allot using the orig reciever parts..But then again, there are many people that do know...But do it anyways! The only way to make a display mg42 correctly is to obtain a replica reciever...Or get a real mg!!! Thank the government for these inane laws/regulations!

[MG Stocks.com]

There is no law stating what is and isn't legal regarding dummy guns. The law states "readily restorable" which is of course, open to interpretation. ATF has issued letters stating that inserting solid blocks from 1/2 to 1" (depending on the letter) and using real portions in front and behind is okay with them.

 

ATF has issued NO formal ruling on what is and isn't legal. A letter from ATF is NOT a formal ruling and does not have the force of law. Mixing the two up is pretty common thing however.

 

[MP43]

Maybe I can help. I really don't want to get into a pissing contest here but

I have a copy of a BATF letter stating what can or should I say must be done to make a dummy out of a MG42 parts kit. There are numerous things that must be done to satisfy them. One of the key mods. is that 1" must be removed from the receiver. The letter does not state from which portion of the receiver the inch must be taken.

The simplest way is to remove the bad inch from the forward portion of the receiver which turns one of the oblong vent holes into another round vent hole. Be careful to insure there is a oblong hole left on bottom in correct location for bipod to clip into. The barrel must be shortened one inch to accomodate shortened receiver. Any barrel can be and must be welded in. Even one of those CMP 03 or 03A3 drill rifle barrels with some washers on both ends for spacer/ support. It is a shame to waste a good barrel or bolt on the project. Some people either weld the bolt in place or weld a plate in the rear portion. Nothing can function in the piece including the barrel swaping part. Eastwoods makes a self etching metal primer paint that blends well with the original blueing for a cheep easy final finish. The resulting piece looks good for what it is, a 25 lb. club. When you cut out the 1" piece, it is a hell of a lot easier to weld that area back together than the original 1/4" wide torch cuts. Use coat hanger to help bridge the gap. Perfect alignment not important, it is never intended to shoot anyway. You can even bridge weld the parts and fill in the gaps with bondo or JB Weld. Only things that work are the trigger, butt removal and top cover opens. It will look great on one of those post war AA Tripods with a 50 round belt of ammo dangling from it. If anyone is interested in this project drop me a line and I'll dig up that letter and send you a copy for CYA purposes. This is how I.I. of N. Carolina made up their dummies they were selling at Knob Creek for $800. When you finish this project, It will not be readily restorable. Taking an inch out of the receiver insures that. Fortunately, the receiver of an MG42 is the whole tamali. Not like a Bren or a BAR. Now, can anybody tell me how to make a non gun or dummy gun out of a 1919 Browning? What is the dummy sideplate all about. As I understand it, no inch is removed from that reciever.