Question About M1928A1 Parts Sets At Omega

[richard w.]

I understand that the Omega kits have no barrels.

 

Can anyone tell me if the Cutts compensator is included, or is it missing with the barrel?

 

Thanks

[dalbert]

richard w.,

 

I'm assuming, based on what I've seen, that the Cutts will not be included in a parts set unless the barrel is present. If you need a Cutts, contact Phil Askew on this board. I believe he had a few in his parts inventory at the TATA Show and Shoot in August.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

[Grasshopper]

Hi Richard,

 

Dalbert is correct. I recently got some Omega kits and there were no compensators. I guess I should have looked at the kit pictures on his site as they are not shown there either.

 

The kits I got were not quite a nice as the ones about 7-8 years ago but had many good parts that I've put to use.

 

Good Luck,

 

Grasshopper

[mnshooter]

Don recently told me he has been completely out of compensators for well over a year.

[richard w.]

Thanks for your replies, fellas.

[Hawkeye_Joe]

IMA (International Military Antiques) has complete parts kits including barrels and compensators. Very pricey though....

[RoscoeTurner]

Never hurts to just pick up the phone and give them a call or send an email. Don would be the best one to answer the question.

 

PH - (520) 889-8895

 

Email - ddbell@flash.net

[mike in pa]

IMA (International Military Antiques) has complete parts kits including barrels and compensators. Very pricey though....

 

Buyer beware on IMA.

 

A few years back while I was waiting for my Westie transfer, I ordered a complete 28 parts kit plus an extra internals kit and they shorted me one actuator. When I called them about the shortage, they said that's the way they are being sent out now.

[mnshooter]

I ordered a deluxe parts set from IMA a couple of years ago, before the big price jump.

The Lyman adjustable sight was not up to the level of the rest of the kit (which was excellent).

I called them, and a woman said that those sights were all about like I described; they would not do any exchange, even when I offered to pay an exchange fee. She said I could ship the kit back, and they would refund, minus shipping, but that was the only thing they would do if I wasn't satisfied with the kit.

I saw a kit another person ordered a few weeks later, and that sight could pass for new. I guess that can happen.

 

Recently watched one of their TV show reruns; what's his name was talking about how

"keeping the customer happy" was the most important part of their business, etc.

[35divmp]

Recently watched one of their TV show reruns; what's his name was talking about how

"keeping the customer happy" was the most important part of their business, etc.

 

So much for that business plan!

[reconbob]

I do not think its right or fair to snipe at IMA or anyone with these one-sided anecdotal

stories. What is IMA's side of the story? Were the kits listed with no actuators? How long

ago was "a few years back"? 5 years? And you still want to stick it to IMA? You could have

returned the kit but you chose not to. Thats not IMA's fault. For every

actuator "missing" or rear sight not-so-nice story I guarantee you there are double or triple

the number of stories of customers cherry picking nice parts out of their order and substituting

their own crap and trying to return it, or claiming their order was incomplete. Places like IMA

sell in high volume. Do you know what a logistical nightmare it is for someone to want to exchange

only one part out of a parts set? And notice - they did offer a full refund less shipping - what is

more fair than that?

No, I don't work at IMA, but I have been in the business for years and I know what its like.

I cannot remember the last time I personally bought anything from IMA but I have probably

had 8-10 M1928A1 parts sets purchased by others but shipped direct to me for Class 2 full

auto gun builds and the quality has been AOK. On one of these kits the trigger frame had

been filed (who knows why?) so that instead of retaining the frame the frame latch it sprang

completely out of the receiver - i.e. the frame was no good. They exchanged it promptly at no

charge.

 

Bob

[jim c 351]

I do not think its right or fair to snipe at IMA or anyone with these one-sided anecdotal

stories. What is IMA's side of the story? Were the kits listed with no actuators? How long

ago was "a few years back"? 5 years? And you still want to stick it to IMA? You could have

returned the kit but you chose not to. Thats not IMA's fault. For every

actuator "missing" or rear sight not-so-nice story I guarantee you there are double or triple

the number of stories of customers cherry picking nice parts out of their order and substituting

their own crap and trying to return it, or claiming their order was incomplete. Places like IMA

sell in high volume. Do you know what a logistical nightmare it is for someone to want to exchange

only one part out of a parts set? And notice - they did offer a full refund less shipping - what is

more fair than that?

No, I don't work at IMA, but I have been in the business for years and I know what its like.

I cannot remember the last time I personally bought anything from IMA but I have probably

had 8-10 M1928A1 parts sets purchased by others but shipped direct to me for Class 2 full

auto gun builds and the quality has been AOK. On one of these kits the trigger frame had

been filed (who knows why?) so that instead of retaining the frame the frame latch it sprang

completely out of the receiver - i.e. the frame was no good. They exchanged it promptly at no

charge.

 

Bob

 

Bob,

Its quite alright for members here to pass on any experience with anyone as long as they tell the truth. Its that freedom of speech thing that you may have read about.

In 2006 I bought a M1 kit from IMA that was nice except for a pitted rear site. I returned the site and got a nice site in return.

So I guess we came say that IMA gives great service to old men like me and big time dealers like you, but poor old mnshooter and Mike in Pa will just have to eat it.

Every business has its headaches and if IMA doesn't like it they can always sell hot dogs

Jim C

[darrylta]

I purchased (6) 28 kits from IMA 5 years ago. All were NOS in quality.

I do remember that I specified and paid extra for the "select quality kits".

-Darryl

[mnshooter]

I purchased (6) 28 kits from IMA 5 years ago. All were NOS in quality.

I do remember that I specified and paid extra for the "select quality kits".

-Darryl

 

That is what I paid for as well; "Super Select" was the term they used.

As they did also sell the Lyman sight separately, I did not consider it beyond good customer service

for them to pick another one out of that stock and exchange it, especially when I offered to pay for their effort.

I have been on both sides of counter many times, and have often seen the benefit of going the extra distance.

[kanemono]

I bought one of the "super select" kits from IMA a couple of years ago and it was a beautiful almost mint condition 1928A1 kit. One interesting thing about the kit was that all of the metal had a coating of what looked like black magic marker. I removed it with acetone and everything bit the but plate was perfect underneath. The but plate had some finish wear on the edges that the marker covered over. I think I read here on the Forum that this was done by the Russians to make the kits look better. Not IMA's fault. I have bought a couple of "dummy" guns from IMA and paid for the special selection and have been very happy with the guns I received.

Dick

[reconbob]

Well, the trouble is most of the time the "truth" is somebody grinding their ax.

We have no way of knowing - none - what is right or wrong or true or false when

people start with their "Company X ripped me off" posts. My opinion is that they

should not be allowed. But thats just me.

An exception to this would be a well documented case which is of interest to

all - such as when there was concern that IMA was selling "fake" nickle buttstock

oilers.

 

Bob

[RoscoeTurner]

Well, the trouble is most of the time the "truth" is somebody grinding their ax.

We have no way of knowing - none - what is right or wrong or true or false when

people start with their "Company X ripped me off" posts. My opinion is that they

should not be allowed. But thats just me.

An exception to this would be a well documented case which is of interest to

all - such as when there was concern that IMA was selling "fake" nickle buttstock

oilers.

 

Bob

 

 

IMA is more than welcome to come on here and tell their side of the story.

[mike in pa]

I do not think its right or fair to snipe at IMA or anyone with these one-sided anecdotal

stories. What is IMA's side of the story? Were the kits listed with no actuators? How long

ago was "a few years back"? 5 years? And you still want to stick it to IMA? You could have

returned the kit but you chose not to. Thats not IMA's fault.

Bob

 

Hey people want to know the good and bad with these companies selling parts kits, if you don't like what I posted, then move on.

 

Yes, the COMPLETE parts kit was advertised with an actuator. The internals kit was advertised with an ACTUATOR. So if you are still following me, I ordered and paid for both the complete 28 kit and a complete 28 internals kit, so I should have received a total of two actuators. And yes I like to have plenty of spare parts.

 

I called them and they did not want to do anything, so that GIVES me the right to post this information wherever and when ever I wish to do so, even if it's a "few years back". What they did was make even more money by shorting me one actuator and as everybody know they are not ten dollar items.

Edited December 9, 2012 by mike in pa

[mnshooter]

I do not think its right or fair to snipe at IMA or anyone with these one-sided anecdotal

stories. What is IMA's side of the story? Were the kits listed with no actuators? How long

ago was "a few years back"? 5 years? And you still want to stick it to IMA? You could have

returned the kit but you chose not to. Thats not IMA's fault.

Bob

 

Hey people want to know the good and bad with these companies selling parts kits, if you don't like what I posted, then move on.

 

Yes, the COMPLETE parts kit was advertised with an actuator. The internals kit was advertised with an ACTUATOR. So if you are still following me, I ordered and paid for both the complete 28 kit and a complete 28 internals kit, so I should have received a total of two actuators. And yes I like to have plenty of spare parts.

 

I called them and they did not want to do anything, so that GIVES me the right to post this information wherever and when ever I wish to do so, even if it's a "few years back". What they did was make even more money by shorting me one actuator and as everybody know they are not ten dollar items.

 

Totally Agree.

 

Lets see:

Something that is constitutionally protected shouldn't be allowed simply because someone else doesn't like it.

Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

[reconbob]

Hey guys - lighten up. All I was was saying, and continue to say, is that

we don't know, and have no way of knowing if a post is true or false.

More emphatically repeating the same story doesn't make it true, or false.

People have no way of knowing if I am telling the truth when I say that IMA

exchanged the trigger frame promptly and at no cost. People also have no

way of knowing how many actuators you did or did not order or receive.

You can't prove you were missing an actuator. I can't prove IMA quickly

and professionally exchanged the trigger frame.

 

Bob

[RoscoeTurner]

There is no rule on this forum that prohibits the discussion of vendor business practices good or bad.

[bug]

Hey guys - lighten up. All I was was saying, and continue to say, is that

we don't know, and have no way of knowing if a post is true or false.

More emphatically repeating the same story doesn't make it true, or false.

People have no way of knowing if I am telling the truth when I say that IMA

exchanged the trigger frame promptly and at no cost. People also have no

way of knowing how many actuators you did or did not order or receive.

You can't prove you were missing an actuator. I can't prove IMA quickly

and professionally exchanged the trigger frame.

 

Bob

 

I'd be inclined to believe both of you. As long as the post doesn't start with "I heard" , "I read somewhere", etc, I usually take it seriously.

[NavyEngineer]

There is no rule on this forum that prohibits the discussion of vendor business practices good or bad.

And that is greatly appreciated - not every board sees it this way. It's pretty valuable to be able to get people's unvarnished opinions on vendors and business practices, and at least for the major vendors, it usually becomes readily apparent if a reported problem is a "fluke" or common practice for that particular business. I took some heat a few years ago on another firearms related board when I complained about the business practices of one of their sponsors. Of course, I e-mailed and called them over half a dozen times over the course of a few weeks without the vendor following through on promises before taking my complaint to the board to warn others.