joseph12297 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Good morning,I just filed my papers for a C&R Winchester M2 Carbine, and was going to make some room in the safe. I pulled out an Inland M1 I have had for about 15 years, and remembered why I got it in the firstplace.It is a late war Inland, Ser #6,221,xxx, with about everything Inland maker marked on it. But the stock is clearly marked IO in the slingwell and STD PROD just forward of the slingwell.Is it common to have 2 manufacturers on the same stock? Any info/insight would be appreciated.Thank youLarry Edited April 4, 2013 by joseph12297 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 By the six million range , the other prime contractors had been shut down . Only Winchester and Inland remained. Winchester bought the others leftovers and put them on thier new production. I think Inland did the same to a lesser extent . Overton may have had this stock in thier inventory when SP shut down , too. As this is the only abnormality , it is prob'ly correct.Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph12297 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Cool, makes perfect sense, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksnest Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) My $.02. Your Inland was an arsenal rebuild by Standard Products. Edited January 31, 2013 by hawksnest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph12297 Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 That also makes sense...ThanksLarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Except by the time this was built , SP was out of the carbine business. Now , two carbine mfgs did do rebuilds , Underwood and one other , but IIRC , they used rebuild stamps , not thier mfg. stamps. Underwood , for example , used a giant .U. stamp.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 As stated above Standard Products rebuild and had contracts to about 1950. They put the above stamp on left side of stock near the sling slot. The guns they made had "S J" or "S-HB" in the sling well. Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Thanks , I could not remember who the 2nd one was.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Did Std. Products do a large number of " pass through " inspections ? It would be uncommon for it to remain original if it passed through a full rebuild. Ogdon is known for thier stamp on many 1903A3 that appear to be all original except for the "OG" stamp . I was wondering if that could be the case here ?Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Canfield Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Did Std. Products do a large number of " pass through " inspections ? It would be uncommon for it to remain original if it passed through a full rebuild. Ogdon is known for thier stamp on many 1903A3 that appear to be all original except for the "OG" stamp . I was wondering if that could be the case here ?Chris Standard Product's post-war contract was specifically to rebuild carbines that needed refurbishing, so it is unlikely any remained unmodified after leaving S-P. Also, the M1903A3 rifles you cited that went through Ogden and only received a cleaning/and or inspection didn't require any replacement of outmoded parts. In the case of carbines, however, government rebuild standards mandated that the weapons be fitted with updated parts when overhauled which is why almost all found today will have low wood stocks, adjustable sights, rotary safeties, bayonet lugs, etc., etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hey Bruce , good to hear from you . Hope you're doing well.So , in all likelyhood , this carbine is not the carbine that was in it when it went through SP , and was added later .Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Canfield Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hey Bruce , good to hear from you . Hope you're doing well.So , in all likelyhood , this carbine is not the carbine that was in it when it went through SP , and was added later .ChrisHi Chris, Things are quite well. Thanks for asking. Yes, it is entirely possible (actually probable) that the stock was replaced at some point, likely after it left government service. I have seen at least one purported "original" Standard Products carbine with S-P rebuild marking on the stock. Obviously whoever "restored" the carbine wasn't aware of the origins of the marking on the stock and just assumed it was the correct stock for a WWII production S-P carbine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64atlas Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 There have been many "Restorations" of M1 Carbines in the last 10+ years. Everyone seems to think that is a good thing to do.It's gottrn to the point that there are fake carbine parts on the market. Everyone seems to want a "New, as issued" Carbine.I have an IBM that went through post war rebuild. Shoots great and looks good to me.BTW, Mr Canfield, Yours is the first book I bought on the M1/M1 Carbine. Still think it is one of the best out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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