Dan Hickman Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 As title says. I have everything to put a 1918 A3 together except the knowledge to do so. Can anyone recommend a gunsmith with BAR experience? I have the Ohio Ordnance receiver and a complete gun kit from Sarco, minus receiver. I really want to get his rifle built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Contact OOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Dan Block maybe ? On the site as deerslayer I think. He builds wood too. Bet he can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfmade Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hello, all. I'm in a similar situation: got the complete parts kit, but I have the PhilOrd receiver in an incomplete state. I've seen a couple people reference a complete OOW receiver for their kits, but really I'm interested in completing the receiver I have. I haven't found a build on these anywhere online that I can follow, which is pretty weird. I can do it without guidance, but it will sure take longer. I can't really glean anything from an FN-D build on WeaponsGuild that I've seen referenced several times on sites. That one is a sheet metal build. (1) Anyone have a link to any amount of a work/build on a receiver? Or have a contact for a little guidance?(2) I don't want to step into the danger zone of being capable of converting to a FA, so does anyone have a comment on the keeping within the legal confines of semi-auto construction on one of these?(3) I tried joining the WWIIBARMAN Yahoo group and was summarily rejected. Sure would appreciate a some info on this one. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hickman Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Called OOW they wouldn't build the gun with my parts. They would buy my parts from me and then sell me the completed gun using their parts. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Try again. Several on this forum belong to that group and had no problem joining. (3) I tried joining the WWIIBARMAN Yahoo group and was summarily rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 There's no great mystery about building a BAR. I've built two (on OOW receivers) and I'm not a "gunsmith." The only halfway hard part is getting the barrel on tight, and indexed, and setting the proper headspace. There are draw marks on the barrel and receiver that have to be lined up. Normally, the barrel will screw up hand tight to a point less than 1/4" before the draw marks align. Then you have to use a barrel wrench or a really heavy-duty strap wrench to tighten it the rest of the way. (The receiver is flat-sided, so it can be clamped directly to a work bench between pieces of wood.) If you can't get the draw marks to line up regardless of how much torque you apply (within reason), then you can carefully file a tiny amount off the barrel shoulder until they do. (This procedure is described in TM 9-1211 (1942).) Then you need a set of "go" and "no-go" headspace gages. With a new OOW receiver, the headspace will initially be too tight. You adjust the headspace by grinding the back of the bolt lock where it bears against the recess in the receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest title ii Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Called OOW they wouldn't build the gun with my parts. They would buy my parts from me and then sell me the completed gun using their parts. Oh well!You may try and give John Andrewski a call in NH. http://www.johnandrewski.com/ 603.630.0290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyardslug Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Try again. Several on this forum belong to that group and had no problem joining. (3) I tried joining the WWIIBARMAN Yahoo group and was summarily rejected. +1 on what RoscoeTurner said. I am moderator on the WWII BARMAN group and haven't rejectected anyone, the application didn't get to my inbox. You also may find a person here or on the WWII BARMAN group geographicly close who has undertaken such a project. As AlexanderA said the only difficult part is installing the Barrel. Everything else is cake once you know where everthing fits in George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfmade Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thanks. I sent another request. The barrel looks like the two issues are timing and head space. When the old was taken off the receiver half cut it was extremely tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hickman Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Thanks for all the replies. My nephew has finally started working on them. He is supposed to build two. Parkerizing begins tomorrow. He has clocked the barrels, as he called it. Hopefully he will have them done in about a month. Can't wait to get my hands on it!Have always liked the BAR, but after getting to shoot a couple of them at OFASTS the past three years I had to have one. Not FA, but it's the next best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 To be honest , with Thompsons / Greaseguns / Reisings to fill the FA light class and beltfed '17 and A4s FA to fill the FA heavy class , I really find my current OOW semi to be on par with my old sold-to-friend Group Ind. FA BAR in shooting fun. We got together for a side by side shoot , and I was afraid I'd suffer seller's remorse , but that was not so.The open bolt FA was fun , but the semi was so much more accurate I would be happy with either .I like the OOW semi so much I'm trying to build a pair of semi-ANM2s as USMC Iwo Jima " stingers" . Thier floating barrels will not be so accurate as a OOW , and a FA's 12-1500 RPM would be a hoot , but where would you come up with one ?After building them , I'll put one up for trade towards a 1941 Johnson LMG semi.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Fire Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Hello All, I purchased the receiver from OOW and sent them the barrel to index, they sent it back to me . Its fairly easy to build up from that point. If you don't already have this link, save it. It can help with any build questions. https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:2vD7bLf6ZzsJ:stevespages.com/pdf/browning_1918a2_shop_manual.pdf+m1918+browning+automatic+rifle+manual&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgSPhKIfXbC4kCRfRXVE2FRNfm1MezdMmuRlfOVFZ09zYul0qk8DC69ISSQw2wojMJA54Ix3Nx7vY3PMAKyhWmUg-6RPs-8aOiwIHn922I0mihlX05-NXCgzF_4nfiAvyPMSLk-&sig=AHIEtbTJVYH6GBSg26n-lVFul2FRmLDjtQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 According to Jim Ballou's book, the Army considered issuing a semiauto-only BAR in the 1920's. It was Springfield Armory's work on the semiautomatic rifle (culminating in the Garand) that killed that idea. So the idea of a semi BAR is not new. The OOW semi BAR maks a fine rifle as long as you don't have to carry it very far. Let's face it, considering the price, it's primarily a collector's piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Let's face it, considering the price, it's primarily a collector's piece. I couldn't disagree more.If my $15 - 25 ,000 MGs are shooters , why would a $4,000 piece be a safe queen ?Esp. if it shoots like a house afire ?Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 The semi BAR is fine for shooting at targets, on a range. What I meant say was that its weight and cost make it unsuitable for practical use in the field. There are simply other, better alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Ahhh...Therein I can agree.Of course...during duck season....in a blind on the edge of a lake....mounted in a 1917A1 tripod with AA extension and a BAR fork....mag full of tracers.....maybe?Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hickman Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 My 1918A3 is done. Should be shipped this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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