michaelkih Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I was never really looking for a Sten, but I came across someone selling an amnesty PPSH-41 and a Sten MKII that were both amnesty registered and brought back from WWII. The prices were too good to be true, but they were in fact true with the original amnesty papers still, so I picked them both up. They even are all numbers matching, which especially for the PPSH-41 barrel is amazing. Here are pictures of the Sten and PPSH-41, since there is no Russian SMG section here. The guns look well used, but I like the battlefield pickup look especially when they were actually real battle guns, and the barrels and internal mechanics of these guns are still perfect. Many thousands of rounds shall be put down these barrels by me over the years I hope you enjoy the pictures. http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/068_zps1c78deb0.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/067_zps69736c40.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/059_zps5008b295.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/058_zps502c2061.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/073_zps451c4e5a.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/069_zps39427e4b.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/0112_zpse86ecb4a.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/0234_zps67549059.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/0302_zps44b08339.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/021_zpsc97a423f.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/0085_zpsab27b043.jpghttp://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/0342_zpsc8836146.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 PPSH is interesting, it is only the second I have seen outside of wartime photos that did not have the front sight hood. Are there any marks indicating one had been installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCity Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 They are really sweet looking Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted June 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Doesn't look like it ever had one. I'm pretty sure the older ones did not have the sight hoods, and it was added later before the war ended. That's why so many WWII pictures show them without it. Or maybe they just broke off easily? Who knows. If it did, I'll just tell myself that it was knocked off during the battle!! haha http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/michaelkih/022_zps493eb131.jpg PPSH is interesting, it is only the second I have seen outside of wartime photos that did not have the front sight hood. Are there any marks indicating one had been installed? Edited June 15, 2014 by michaelkih Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 The only other one I have looked at without the cover was dated 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) The Sten looks like new. A fine example of an original. But the PPSH-41 looks like it traveled from Stalingrad to Berlin the hard way. Then somehow found its way across the Atlantic. Probably in a GI duffle bag. Lots of history on that one. If only they could talk. Edited June 15, 2014 by timkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8tr Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 My PPSh 41 has a front sight hood, and it is an early 1941 dated one, with the tangent rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 You do not often find wartime photos of the PPSH without sight hood. When ever I find a wartime photo of PPSH's the sight hood is one of the first things I look for. My PPSh 41 has a front sight hood, and it is an early 1941 dated one, with the tangent rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Really? http://ppsh-41.com/image/74117347923 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-E0406-0022-011%2C_Russland%2C_deutscher_Kriegsgefangener.jpghttp://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619946-ppsh_41early.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Bundesarchiv_Bild_116-168-618%2C_Russland%2C_Kampf_um_Stalingrad%2C_Soldat_mit_MPi.jpg http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619943-ars57_6.jpg You do not often find wartime photos of the PPSH without sight hood. When ever I find a wartime photo of PPSH's the sight hood is one of the first things I look for. My PPSh 41 has a front sight hood, and it is an early 1941 dated one, with the tangent rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yes, really!!!!!!!!. After looking at thousands of photos over a number of years those without the sight hood are the exception, you find many more that will show the sight hood. By the way, if your second photo showing a German soldier with a PPSH is being used to prove you point, you need to look at it again. That one shows a PPSH with the sight hood. Really? http://ppsh-41.com/image/74117347923 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-E0406-0022-011%2C_Russland%2C_deutscher_Kriegsgefangener.jpghttp://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619946-ppsh_41early.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Bundesarchiv_Bild_116-168-618%2C_Russland%2C_Kampf_um_Stalingrad%2C_Soldat_mit_MPi.jpg http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619943-ars57_6.jpg You do not often find wartime photos of the PPSH without sight hood. When ever I find a wartime photo of PPSH's the sight hood is one of the first things I look for. My PPSh 41 has a front sight hood, and it is an early 1941 dated one, with the tangent rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I wonder why some have it and some don't? I guess they were just trying to pump them out as fast as they could, or someone was sleeping on the job after drinking too much vodka the night before and a batch got missed. It'd be interesting to know, but I guess we never will. Kind of neat I got a "rare" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkummer Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 The sten almost looks like a fine English shotgun compared to the hammered PPHS-41. Of course in sub-zero temps if the PPHS-41 kept working that is all that mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I. Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Really? http://ppsh-41.com/image/74117347923 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-E0406-0022-011%2C_Russland%2C_deutscher_Kriegsgefangener.jpghttp://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619946-ppsh_41early.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Bundesarchiv_Bild_116-168-618%2C_Russland%2C_Kampf_um_Stalingrad%2C_Soldat_mit_MPi.jpg http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/112064/1619943-ars57_6.jpg You do not often find wartime photos of the PPSH without sight hood. When ever I find a wartime photo of PPSH's the sight hood is one of the first things I look for. My PPSh 41 has a front sight hood, and it is an early 1941 dated one, with the tangent rear sight.As I recall the early sight hoods were spring steel that snapped in place over the sight post held by spring pressure, later they were welded on. I have a PPD that the hood is missing there are grooves on each side where the sight attached.Somewhere in Russia or Germany those sight hoods are all over the landscape, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I picked up a bronze bolt for it. I like the way it looks, and may pick up a couple more while they are available. What do you guys think of those British bayonets that Apex has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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