daruss Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Someone was telling me today some of the "Tube Guns" out there are actually genuine WW2 guns.. They said the company would just place there stamp on it.. Is this true? Anyone else over hear of this? Edited September 8, 2017 by daruss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyDixon Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 some times it is best to leave wellenough alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azboater Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 see this discussion: http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?s=f29379abf5f559b621ad666072a8e626&showtopic=21063 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) What is the first rule of fight club? Edited September 8, 2017 by timkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Black River Militaria CII Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes, for reasons of greed, indifference, ignorance and others, after the en of the '68 Amnesty, a significant number of unregistered MGs were just ID'd by the manufacturer and registered on F2s as "manufactured". There was no oversight of licensee or individual behavior in the realm of manufacturing/registering MGs for private possession. In the fifties, sixties and into the seventies, MGs were not regarded as worthy of collecting, there were great numbers of them offered in various registration status, most were afraid of Treasury and few had any inkling of how to acquire live MGs legally. Retail of DEWATs helped with the effort to acquaint collectors with MG collecting and there were a lot of outfits importing and DEWATing MGs. The $200 transfer tax was mostly insurmountable and ridiculed, but those ion the know understood that registering an MG preior to the end of the '68 Amnesty was free.Anyway, as the remanufacturing of MGs heated up values started to stratify and factory made and registered DEWAT MGs brought a few more bucks than remans and pre-May samples were the least expensive. claiming that an MG was not "welded" created a bit of a premium, and no one really thought about the future. Unwelded MGs that did not go through the destruction and rebuild protocol required for registration between '68 and '86 are contraband.I've seen quite a few…... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daruss Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 TY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Thanks Bob. Saw a Pearl MP40 like that years ago when I was in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhunter Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 The same as the 2nd and third rule! What is the first rule of fight club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Anyone know anything about this Wilson tube gun?? Are these good every day shooters?? Tia http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8313-wts-mp40-wilson-tube-gun-excellent-15500/ Sent from my iPhone Edited September 18, 2017 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Mine runs no different than my war bringback. Wilson did a great job with his look and finish. Price seems a little high though for a tube, but I haven't looked at purchasing mp40s lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Is it a real MP40 parts kit with a tube bolt ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ask the seller to confirm. My Wilson is a Wilson manufactured tube with original mp40 parts otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ok I sent him an email. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG08 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Keep in mind that there are also guns with a Mfg ID on them that are "re-activated" MGs - registered DEWATS that were made operable again by class IIs and so marked. so just because the gun is "original" and has a Class IIs name it is not a contraband gun necessarily. Bob does make a valid point on guns that were supposedly destroyed and then re-manufactured.... but were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Iannamico Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 The easiest way to tell a "tube" MP40 from an original is to look inside the receiver tube. "Tube" guns will be smooth inside, made from a piece of tube with the "fluting" machine on the outside to give it the correct look.Originals were made from a sheet of fluted (or corrugated)? rolled into a round shape, thus will have be "fluted" inside the receiver as well as outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 The tube guns I have seen also lack the crimp that holds the trunnion in the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.Urich Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 The "Crimp" was later war... early MP40's didn't have "crimp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl7422 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 My Wilson tube gun runs great--love that thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 The "Crimp" was later war... early MP40's didn't have "crimp" The crimp is seen as early as 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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