Uncle Dudley Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks for the update! What is he charging per transfer (in order to pay off the $7K equipment)? $100.00-transfer and $40-electronic fingerprints. U D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Lanchester transferF4 mailed: 3 May 2021Card billed: 7 May 2021F4 approved: 24 April 2022Stamp received: ?? Hell hasn't frozen over yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just received notice in the past five days that three of my Form 4's had been approved. Two were 11 months old, and the other was 8.5 months. Interestingly, they were from two different dealers, but all three were approved by the same person on the same day. So perhaps the ATF is starting to get organized. Both dealers also said that their E-form 4's have been taking around 3 months from submission to approval. So, assuming that they keep that system tuned and running, wait times may be much better in the future. Forever hopeful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 A friend just received his stamp for a (form 4 paper Trust) suppressor.13 Months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Just had four paper form 4s approved to me on the same date from the same examiner. One was 8 months old, one was 6, one 5 and one 4 months old. It definitely appears like that are once again batching forms. I also have one e-form 4 thats just under two months old that was not included with the others. Edited April 28, 2022 by tommyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player_To_Be_Named Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Batching applications from the same Transferee only makes sense. Businesses generate profits by weeding out waste in operations. 'Merican way. The bureaucrats need to learn this but sadly have little inclination to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Iannamico Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 I just bought a machinegun from a dealer (in Tennessee) and he E filed form 3 to my dealer (North Dakota) on 3/17/22 and it was approved 3/18/22. He shipped the gun yesterday (3/21/22) and it should be at my dealer 3/24/22. I will E file form 4 when it gets here. U D Looking forward to your efile form 4 results! I have 2 form 4 paper in December 2021 and will be 2 e file March 2022. I post the results. My local gun shop is small, but Class III. He investigated eFile and said that you have to buy a "system" to make it work because the photos, prints etc. can't just be scanned but have to be sent in some sort of proprietary file format for eFile. The latest cost of such a "system" is about $5,000 according to him.He asked me to ask you which or what "system" your North Dakota guy is using to do your form 4 transfer - if you wouldn't mind sharing that.Thanks,EricSystem for efile? You can upload regular jpeg photos you can take with your phone, as far as fingerprints there is a cover letter to send in paper fingerprint cards. You can also get fingerprinted for $40-$45.00 they send you a file. You cannot open the file but it gets uploaded on eforms. This link for electronic fingerprints, they will give you locations near you https://appointment....ason?ClientId=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varminter Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 My form 4 stamp (paper) arrived Saturday. 8 1/2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just last week I received 5 stamps, all handled by the same reviewer. It took one year and two weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit57 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 I was checking the internet on NFA information and came across this report.I have a buddy who told me that the crazy wait times for the form 4 was due to the large number of silencers being sold. He may be right, I don't know. But if you go to page 13 of the report, it shows the very large rise in the number of form 4s being processed. Interesting stuff.https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/report/2021-firearms-commerce-report/download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Rabbit57, Thanks for the ATF report posted. I thought it was very informative. Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Paper Form 4 transfer to an SOT:Filed March 4Approved May 26Stamp received June 4 E-filed Form 4 from the same SOT to meFiled Feb 21Finger print cards received Feb 2490 days was May 25awaiting approval Edited June 6, 2022 by StrangeRanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger1385 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 My CR Thompson took a little over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 I remember 40 years ago 30 days on all of it.And you could call the examiner and talk to a real human get answers, and have it faxed. Sure today i understand many more thousands buying selling and all guess what want the answer to that update the freaking system for all. And a check box if n.f.a. already >has guns and cans {and its a good guy } and not been arrested and all taken away. approve it and done. But i understand it would take common sense and some brains to get all that figured out. And they don't want it all out there anyhow. Because they work against us. So we just pitter patter all a round it to say bless me father can i have another. welcome to a blessed 2022... Old Man Rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikenmick Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Spoke Friday with atf, 13 months to the day check was cashed, two takeaways first my application is "pending", second they have approved eforms sent in December and they now have priority over paper form 4 (go figure) frustrating to say the least, additionally, I was informed once approved the atf can take an additional 45 days to send the tax stamp, so hypothetically if approved on Monday I'm still a month away meaning 14 plus months this is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) I have a gun I sold on a C&R Form 4in September, buyer's check sent in and cashed in November, and stamp showed up yesterday! That was fast! 8 months... buyer did recently ( a month prior to purchasing my gun) also purchase a Vickers, It showed up a month ago too. Could be that purchase streamlined his paperwork this time around. Edited June 18, 2022 by giantpanda4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit57 Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) I got my ATF form 4 approval today. The ATF charged my credit card on April 4th, and I got the approval today. My form 4 was kind of a hybrid, I eFiled the form 4 but the fingerprint cards were cards that were done by hand, with ink. Less than 3 months. I am pretty excited, Christmas in June!Mark Edited June 22, 2022 by Rabbit57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikenmick Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Finally, approval today after 14 months, looking forward to many fun days at the range, at least over the last year I've been able to purchase spare parts, mags, etc. Now I'm waiting getting back a 21 style actuator I sent off to PK last year a savage knurled actuator going thru his process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varminter Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Some UPS stores do the electronic fingerprints, I did this two months ago. They'll send you the file, forward that with your eFile app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Ive had Form 4s take as long as 12 months, and as little as two months - in the past two years. I used the e-forms system for a can back in January. It was supposed to take 30 days, just got approval last week, right at six months. They do what they want to do, when they want to do it. Its best to forget about it and be pleasantly surprised when the call comes Edited July 31, 2022 by Rimcrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 A couple days ago my Dealer left me a phone message that my paper Form 4 for a silencer on a trust was back. Right around 14 months from the time the check was cashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Yugo M49/57 on a Wilson tubeeForm 4 filed and Visa debited 21 Feb 22FP cards received in WV 24 Feb 22eForm 4 approved 9 Aug 22 166 days from receipt of FP cards169 days from filing. So 24 weeks vs. 51 for my last paper Form 4. I'll take the improvement as a plus even if it's nowhere near the 90 days they have set as a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) I just wish NFA branch would have prioritized the paper forms 4 that were in the NFA system prior to a Form 4 becoming e-form eligible. The paper form 4's were the only option available pre e-forms and they now seem to be an after thought with 12 months being the average time for approval with some paper forms going over 400 + days. Edited August 9, 2022 by Bridgeport28A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dudley Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 4:15 PM, Uncle Dudley said: We finally got the last transfer done today, efiled. The dealer said his equipment was about $7,000.00. He had to buy ATF approved equipment from a list and the printer needs to be FBI certified. We have 2 Thompsons on paper form 4 in state and now 2 form 4 e filed. The dealer I got this Ruger from said he already had a couple 9 week form 4 approvals since the first of the year. My oldest got his Ruger AC556 transfer October 27, 2022 (efiled March 11 2022- local dealer). There was a "glytch" on this one and the dealer spoke to the examiner and had to refile all or some of the information, It was on the ATF end and straightened out on October 26 then approved October 27. The 2 paper form 4s for the Thompsons were approved October 27, 2022 and arrived in the mail today November 7, 2022, ( mailed December 21, 2021). Were still waiting on the other Ruger AC556, for my youngest, efiled March 30, 2022. My oldest now has both approved and my youngest is waiting on the efile for the Ruger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Sergeant Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 14 months 3 weeks on a Silencer Shop Kiosk suppressor !! After 45yrs of NFA transfers..... I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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