NFA amnesty Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Mongo said: The tube where the magwell is must have to be relieved a bit for they to lock in. Its about the thickness of the rear cover of the drum that stops it from locking in. I prefer shooting the 36rnd sticks over the other 2 mag/drum types but then again all my ammo is already on strippers. Thanks Mongo. Your .22 LR conversion kit is amazing. Did not even know something like that existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 The PM12's have a good reputation, but I don't think there are any transferables, so that's a no go for most of us. There was a local guy who did a post sample and I think he slept with it, he liked it so much. I rarely sell anything, so all the MP5's are staying even if there is a KCR Swedish K conspiracy group peer pressuring me into getting it done? I have an Owen on the bench now, but that group is sorely underrepresented, thus they may not be any good, and maybe I should have started the K first? LOL A lot of interesting info and pictures here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 I'm wondering if a separate Swedish K Forum should be set up.... lot's of interest and the gun / history is worthy of it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 The 22LR kit is not mine (I wish). Its in the Swedish Arms Museum. They have their collection on line but you need to know how to search with Swedish terms to get what you want. I'm so familiar with their site because of my deep dives in finding info for my Swedish Kg m/37 BAR. Funny thing is, they do not have pictures of the magazine covers, or the cleaning kit bag. I guess I'll pull them out the next time I am set up for taking some pictures and do the Swedish K junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, johnsonlmg41 said: The PM12's have a good reputation, but I don't think there are any transferables, so that's a no go for most of us. There was a local guy who did a post sample and I think he slept with it, he liked it so much. I rarely sell anything, so all the MP5's are staying even if there is a KCR Swedish K conspiracy group peer pressuring me into getting it done? I have an Owen on the bench now, but that group is sorely underrepresented, thus they may not be any good, and maybe I should have started the K first? LOL A lot of interesting info and pictures here. Some pre samples but no transferable from what I understand. I do not have an FFL so I only every get to shoot one when a friendly FFL brings one to the range. I'm luck in that I can pretty much talk anyone into shooting there stuff by letting out some Stoner 63a trigger time. The Owen and Beretta 38A are also some of the best open bolt SMGs. I have wanted a 38A for a while but they have gone stupid in price too. Edited January 18, 2023 by Mongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mongo said: The 22LR kit is not mine (I wish). Its in the Swedish Arms Museum. They have their collection on line but you need to know how to search with Swedish terms to get what you want. I'm so familiar with their site because of my deep dives in finding info for my Swedish Kg m/37 BAR. Funny thing is, they do not have pictures of the magazine covers, or the cleaning kit bag. I guess I'll pull them out the next time I am set up for taking some pictures and do the Swedish K junk. As luck would have it, GB has two magazine covers listed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 4:58 PM, johnsonlmg41 said: which is good since the one's on gunbroker are cast reproductions. IIRC Mongo put together a light box for photography. So good in fact, his pictures have been used/stolen by others LOL. A friend of mine just reminded me of that discussion the other day. Now all you need is a coffin mag loader, night sights, bayonet, and manual? So I sent the GB seller of the grips a question and here is his response to the Crown grips question: "I get these from a contact in Europe who has a connection to Swedish firearm/military circles. The grips are Swedish production, but it's entirely possible they were produced after the M/45 production had stopped." So it appears that the grips are not reproductions, but maybe later produced grip replacements (whether for military or civilian use I can't speak to). I have a set of flat black and the gray ones you see on the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labanaktis Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Those grips are Swedish. I have a few sets that I got directly from Sweden. Yes they are new made, but still “real” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 The cast grips look interesting. When were they produced and what organization(s) used them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 The Swedes still shoot competition with the K. I would bet the grips came out of that arena. That's what the sun shades are used for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Mongo said: The Swedes still shoot competition with the K. I would bet the grips came out of that arena. That's what the sun shades are used for. Thanks, I always liked the originals. Makes me wonder, do any other subguns have a folding stock and a wood grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Reising M55 has a wood grip and folder. Anyone ever actually shoot a smith 76 side x side with a K? I've always heard the rumors, but no direct first hand comparisons? Would I just be able to paint this and fantasize it's a K? The good news is the can sits a bit below the front sight, so it's totally usable...should one be so inclined to get it dirty? Doubtful original grips are cast. Very slow and not as durable as molded grips. If you were casting them for the factory, you'd not see the air bubbles, the mix would be evacuated. If the contract were for a couple hundred sets maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 The 76 and the K have very different cyclic rates and to me do not feel alike in the hands. The 76 is a fun gun in its own right and has some history behind it from the Vietnam war. it has more issues though as well since S&W did a shit job of coping the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINK Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 I currently have a (tube gun) Swedish K and owned an original Smith for quite a few years. The Smith may have been inspired by the K, but it's not a copy. It's a fine subgun it it's own right, but has a much faster cyclic rate and a totally different trigger pull. In some ways it could be considered an improved version of the K, but in other ways it is not. I love my Swedish K and it's the most pleasant-to-shoot subgun I have ever fired. The Sten and Stirling are also nice, but the K beats them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Yes, the M55! I had not thought of it. I have shot the K and 76 side by side and it magnified the differences between them. Yes, the 76 has its own qualities, but putting down my K and picking up my friends' 76 for the first time, I thought the safety was on. That is how different/heavier the trigger felt. Also, the 76 stock is not as solid and the sights do not adjust. After a little familiarization it was fun to shoot, but the K sure suits me better. Was the 76 actually fielded in Vietnam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, JJX said: Yes, the M55! I had not thought of it. I have shot the K and 76 side by side and it magnified the differences between them. Yes, the 76 has its own qualities, but putting down my K and picking up my friends' 76 for the first time, I thought the safety was on. That is how different/heavier the trigger felt. Also, the 76 stock is not as solid and the sights do not adjust. After a little familiarization it was fun to shoot, but the K sure suits me better. Was the 76 actually fielded in Vietnam? I too currently own both guns, the K and a S&W 76 and found both to be excellent guns. Were it not for the shitty folding stock on the 76 (Brian Miles makes a wonderful stock adaptor that 100% fixes the 76 issue. It is a machined part that allows you to mount modern folding stocks like the SIG or others. I bought one and it is excellent. Can be removed) brmiles@sbcglobal.net Any way, both guns shoot very well, with the 76 being faster, but controllable. It's not as pretty as the K, as S&W followed most Govt directives to produce a gun that works for as little as possible. The one thing about the S&W that most people don't know is that the receiver is threaded (lands), kinda the opposite of the Sterling where the bolt is threaded (lands). Makes the gun virtually impervious to grit and dirt blockages. Another interesting fact about the 76 is that the "U" series SN guns are all commercial, not military. About 6000 were produced and many of the existing guns were destroyed in the 9/11 incident as they were stored in the basement of the WTC. When I go to the range, if I take one, I usually take the other as they are clearly in the same family of design. Even the magazines (with a very slight mod) are the same. I use the K speed loader and 36 round flat stripper clip to load the 76. I found them to be pleasant to shoot, equal in accuracy and simple to clean. I suspect, that at some point the community will begin to realize what a great gun the 76 is and it will follow the K in significant price increases. To: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 By the way JJX, those guns are very good looking. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Rekraps said: By the way JJX, those guns are very good looking. Nice! Thanks. The 76 belongs to a friend of mine. It has had an easy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Wow. I'll post a pic of my M76 and one of my "K"s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) On 1/14/2023 at 6:55 PM, NFA amnesty said: My gratitude to anyone who can help me find an original sling for a Swedish K. I have to admit, I really don't even know what an original sling looks like as I have seen different examples on the internet when I have searched. If anyone has a spare from a parts kit or knows of someone that is willing to sell one, would really appreciate it. I have checked eBay, gun broker and various gun parts businesses on the web, and just can't source one. Thanks everyone. So, I'm going through my "K" crate when I find this sling. I must have ordered it some time ago as i do not remember where it came from. I am certain this is a "modern" field sling for the "K". Note the typical M45B Green paint scheme on the buckle and end clip. So, you could use one like this, or a more traditional leather crown sling as shown above. I believe either is correct. Now an interesting question, what slings were used on the Port Said units. Anyone know? Edited March 3, 2023 by Rekraps free up space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA amnesty Posted January 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Rekraps said: So, I'm going through my "K" crate when I find this sling. I must have ordered it some time ago as i do not remember where it came from. I am certain this is a "modern" field sling for the "K". Note the typical M45B Green paint scheme on the buckle and end clip. So, you could use one like this, or a more traditional leather crown sling as shown above. I believe either is correct. Now an interesting question, what slings were used on the Port Said units. Anyone know? Good looking sling. I might need to order one. I just received my leather swedish sling for a mauser and looks like that will work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 20 hours ago, NFA amnesty said: Good looking sling. I might need to order one. I just received my leather swedish sling for a mauser and looks like that will work too. Post a pic when you get it on the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA amnesty Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rekraps said: Post a pic when you get it on the gun. Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 8:22 PM, Mongo said: Night sights and pouch Cleaning kit, sight tool, loader and carry bag Sling with proper part number on it Based on this picture it looks like some of the guns in Vietnam used by SOG and the SEALs might have been green. US web sling. SOG in Vietnam with suppressed K The closer I look at that sling, the more I think its a M1 Carbine sling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINK Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Looks more like an M14 sling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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