Zamm Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Don't you guys just love those smooth Colt ejectors, no unsightly rivets and such...well I spoke to PK a while ago, picked up a surplus ejector and well, PK took over. Welded the nib and ejector screw, milled down the rivets, and Viola! Check it out and get one today!!! http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectA.jpg http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectB.jpg http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectC.jpg And on the semi: http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjFramB.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1930sRust Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 And I am sure it was marked with the distinctive "K"? Cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted July 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Mr. Rust, Did not ask PK to put his mark on it, but there's a Savage "S" stamped on the underside, so I quess this one is safe. Have not worked out the cost with PK yet. Well, do ya like it?? http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Zamm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1930sRust Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I didn't think. Of coure it is already stamped. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted July 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hey, I just realized how funny the title of this thread sounds with all the talk going on about repros and originals and the such. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif Just want to make it clear that this was a little project to pimp out my Westy and not to pull the wool over anybodys eyes. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Allrighty then, on we go. Zamm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Zamm and PK That is beautiful work...and a nice looking West Hurley. I want one for my Westy. Please e-mail me the price and availability. I know you will have a lot of customers for this item. Thanks for sharing. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jr Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 That does really look good. Jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blishblock Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Great Job PK. I'd like to order some as well. PLs email cost and delivery time . Blishblock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDoug Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 If you look around, you can find original Savage one piece flat top milled ejectors (at least you could 7-8 years ago at OOW). The milled ejector has a thicker flat than the three piece ejector. BTW, what is an original Colt ejector worth? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK. Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Zamm asked to try this and I think it came out alright. It won’t be expensive to do, but I want him to put some miles on his before we try to make a “product†out of this. I am going to make another & run it in my gun for a while. If anyone else wants to be a guinea pig and provide an ejector for conversion, I’ll do 3 more for testing at nominal cost. You have to be willing to shoot the heck out of ‘um (tough assignment) and report back. E mail if interested. AZDoug- not easy to find any flat ejector now days, and when you do you had better have a fat wallet. I know some members have been successful in their search for such this last year and would encourage them to share the results of this effort with the board. PS, the intention is not to duplicate a Colt or Savage part, just do something cleaner than a riveted part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper28 Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I found a flat Savage ejector at Knob Creek in April. Cost me $50.00 and I only saw two of them in the whole place. FIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blishblock Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 PK, I like to try one or two. I shoot 5 to 7000 rds per year. Will be at the TCA meeting at NRA HQ in Aug. My emial is grich@captel.net. Thanks. Blishblock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moor Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Just looking at the pictures, the ejector appears to be identical to the two early Savage milled ejectors that I have been able to collect over the last 3 years. These originals were quite pricey as they are/were pretty rare and as I understand it, Savage only made a very few of the commercial guns that these would have been found on. They may even be left over Colt ejectors that Savage stamped with their S. I'm not sure. I'm very pleased with the craftsmanship of the gentlemen making the recent duplicates. First, an excellent spare parts box duplicate and now an excellent early Savage commercial ejector duplicate. Both marked exactly the same as the originals. Doesn't bother me though as I know mine are original and I didn't buy them to sell or to try to make a huge profit on. I hope some of this skill can be focused on some duplicate Thompson canvas items in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Moor, Just so no one gets the wrong idea. What PK and I were after was a smooth ejector in the "manner" of a commercial ejector without the studs. I don't think either of us was out to " duplicate" an original. This is a stand alone piece, with major differences from other smooth ejectors. The biggest, and I suppose telltale difference is that the metal plate/spring is slightly thinner then previously manufactured ejectors. It's just an item to increase the curb appeal of a Thompson, not a replica of an existing part. best, Zamm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moor Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Zamm, I suspected that holding both an original and your smooth ejector in hand would probably reveal some differences. But in those pictures they look identical to the originals. That is some fine work and I think it looks great on your gun. I put one of my original Savage commerical ejectors on a 28A1 for the same reason. It just plain looks good (the gun had been refinished in the past and is blued now). Wouldn't look right on an all original Auto Ordnance 28A1 but for the refinished/blue 28A1 it looks perfect. Thanks for sharing the photos. Maybe one day I will take the time to figure out how to post some pictures on the board. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK. Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Let’s be absolutely clear on this- the ejector shown in the photos is a converted military, 1928a1, riveted ejector made by Savage as so marked. I simply machined away the rivet heads, welded the parts in place and refinished. Examination would reveal to anyone knowledgeable that this was a rework, not an original milled part. But, it sure looks better on a ‘commercial’ finished gun than the riveted part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I'm interested in one. Price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDoug Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 There can be no mistaking PK's part from a savage original. the original flat bridge piece is thicker than PK's spring steel welded piece. I tried making some spring/welded pieces like this several years ago, but couldn't get the heat treatment right and the spring didn't sproing anymore (It was soft and bent). Or maybe I am just a crappy welder and took all the temper out of it. From memory, the backstrap on a Savage or Colt original is about 50% thicker than on this weldment, also, the machined piece has radius roots at the threaded ejector and the holding nub. It sounds like somebody is sitting on a pile of Savage ejectors....:-) I paid $5 each for my savage machined ejectors in 1995. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 AZDoug, As PK says, it's just a modified original Savage ejector. Nothing new has been manufactured... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif And I do agree with you, it looks bitching on a blued gun, all smooth and shiny http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Whereas the riveted ejector would look fantastic on say an M1, M1A or dulite 28 and this would be quite out of place... The Savage ejectors seem to be plentyful from Gunparts/Numrich for 15.00... NOS stock, unused and in great shape. take care, Zamm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moor Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 This morning I brought one of the Savage milled ejectors and a Savage three piece ejector to work to measure the thickness with a micrometer. Savage military 3 peice ejector = 0.0323" Savage commercial milled ejector = 0.0394" Yes the milled ejector is thicker and if I hold the two together I can see that it is thicker with my naked eye but the difference is very subtle. Now that I am holding the two side-by-side, the really clear difference is the width of the flat bridge piece. The military ejector is much wider than the commercial. Savage military 3 piece ejector = 0.389" Savage commercial milled ejector = 0.307" (exact same as the Colt ejector) From the information that I have been exposed to, there were not that many commercial Savage model1928 Thompsons made. And as I understand it, some were made using some original Colt parts that were left in Auto Ordnance inventory. I don't know how many Savage commercial ejectors were available in 1995 but it took me three years to acquire the two that I have (2001-2004). And there has been a slight price increase from the 1995 prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDoug Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Well, that is easily fixed, careful use a belt sander can be used to reduce the with of the PK ejector down to .307" Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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