Rekraps Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Guys, I heard from a reliable source that starting around the end of March of this year, the ATF started to process Form 4's to Dealers like any other Form 4 submission, instead of expediting them in a separate que. So, like me, you may be wondering why your Form 4 to Dealer transfer is taking forever.... Thank you ATF. I guess the new director is really focused on efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) I think that's erroneous I filed a Form 4 to SOT transfer on 3/30. Approval was 6 or 7 weeks Edited August 29, 2023 by StrangeRanger corrected approval time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 7 hours ago, StrangeRanger said: I think that's erroneous I filed a Form 4 to SOT transfer on 3/30. Approval was 6 or 7 weeks Gotcha. My seller one end of March and we're still waiting. I think we have an overlap of submission dates. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan K Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 The last one I had come in was 5 months. In state individual to me (FFL/SOT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted August 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dan K said: The last one I had come in was 5 months. In state individual to me (FFL/SOT). What was the original submission date? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan K Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 June to Nov 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer1313 Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 My last form 4 to dealer was 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 I've got one that is now 7 months.... ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorgun Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Form 4 from Trust to Dealer. Submitted 10/04/2023, approved 11/16/2023, received 11/27/2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 15 hours ago, motorgun said: Form 4 from Trust to Dealer. Submitted 10/04/2023, approved 11/16/2023, received 11/27/2023. Lucky man! I'm now 9 months in (March 15 submission) for my new "K"....... still waiting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 13, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2024 Going on one year now for my "K".... Rats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojopin2010 Posted January 13, 2024 Report Share Posted January 13, 2024 I went today start my purchase of a out of state M/G and the dealer told me some funny news from the ATF. He said he was advised by the ATF all Form 4 M/G's ( mine being a out of state individual to him then to me)had to go the paper route and not eforms. In addition they wanted papered finger print card and not etf files. He was going to double check with them again on this issue, but he was confused as hell due to the "new", policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 14, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Mojopin2010 said: I went today start my purchase of a out of state M/G and the dealer told me some funny news from the ATF. He said he was advised by the ATF all Form 4 M/G's ( mine being a out of state individual to him then to me)had to go the paper route and not eforms. In addition they wanted papered finger print card and not etf files. He was going to double check with them again on this issue, but he was confused as hell due to the "new", policy. That really doesn't sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojopin2010 Posted January 14, 2024 Report Share Posted January 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Rekraps said: That really doesn't sound right. Nope, it doesn't. He seemed conflicted about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duza9999 Posted January 14, 2024 Report Share Posted January 14, 2024 No that sounds correct if I’m understanding you correctly. Eform 4’s are currently only for dealers to other entities, a non dealer entity can’t use a eform 4 yet even if it would be going to a dealer. That will be coming at some point in the future but until then we’re stuck with paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojopin2010 Posted January 14, 2024 Report Share Posted January 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Duza9999 said: No that sounds correct if I’m understanding you correctly. Eform 4’s are currently only for dealers to other entities, a non dealer entity can’t use a eform 4 yet even if it would be going to a dealer. That will be coming at some point in the future but until then we’re stuck with paper. This is probably it. He did a tranfer a year or so ago from a dealer to a individual over eforms with SS kiosk. This is from a individual to him then to me, he is a relatively new SOT, so probably still learning the idiosyncrasies of all this stuff. Thanks for clarification of this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 25, 2024 Report Share Posted February 25, 2024 Hi, FWIW, in the last year we have done at least 10 E-file Form 4 from the shop (SOT) to local individuals. These were done using BATF's E-file system w/o help from other support organizations. Everything went well. Transfer times varied from 41 days to 6 months. We were quite shocked at the 41 days but the buyer was happy. Our experience. YMMV. Grasshopper ps. Unless things have recently changed (and they might), your gun should go paper 4 to your local dealer on a 5320.4 (paper). From the local dealer to you on a 5320.4 (e-file or paper). If the seller is using his own local dealer there will be a form 3 between the two SOTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilogymac Posted August 18, 2024 Report Share Posted August 18, 2024 Just approved individual to dealer form 4 was 9 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duza9999 Posted August 19, 2024 Report Share Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/18/2024 at 9:03 AM, trilogymac said: Just approved individual to dealer form 4 was 9 weeks. Bloody hell I’m at 292 days today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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