George E. Goll paperwork on Ebay 12/28/2023

[SparksNArcs]

Was browsing looking for Thompson stuff and found this new listing for a letter from Goll to Thompson, which includes an expense report for a number of trips and supplies. Also noted is an expense for having drawings of the compensator made up for Lyman to produce them. Really hope this goes to a Thompson enthusiast for preservation. I saved some photos of these just in case.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186222938476?hash=item2b5bc0896c:g:lz4AAOSw7YFliH~s&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4HEnIonuAfZgN96yzQYnppm0kYy5j5MpyJ%2BVy9li9rDFx2Sy1dX37%2FbHFfts2q9tDKdM39T%2Bj%2BTFBQaQq6Qh2dgm4KhaDJw2V%2BxFgA35SJMkzgMyS6tMcmN9L87hzeoutQX5wRvfPJ5ePWkYHQJnc92NGY3%2BGFgnE%2FTm2WoVTnViyajysRBb0FstNfAo%2BNObkMc4Leysav7jsYkKfcfDqE15S8PYWoeCKLyxjcV0Cbahwv7cmI7D2iUknPpNpHJWexhmU6hv0fSIGzuj%2BPOuobYWesxrwiIasnu9k8%2Fi5PUy|tkp%3ABk9SR9qF_bmWYw

 

 

 

[rpbcps]

SparksNArcs thank you for posting that, it is a lovely item; it'll probably see a lot of Thompson enthusiasts bidding against each other. 

Back in April 2013, that happened on an eBay auction for an early edition of 'Army Ordnance magazine Nov-Dec 1920', which features the M1919 Thompson gun in an article, a very historical article. It also has an advert with the 5th Avenue address on the rear of the magazine, some would argue it is the first advert for the Model of 1921.

After I won that auction, I discovered I had been bidding against at least one other prominent Thompson collector/ Author.
 

Edited December 29, 2023 by rpbcps
Typo, yet again

[brveagle]

Nice find! This is the type of stuff I dream of finding at some estate sale auction. 

[signal_4]

2 hours ago, rpbcps said:

SparksNArcs thank you for posting that, it is a lovely item; it'll probably see a lot of Thompson enthusiasts bidding against each other. 

Back in April 2013, that happened on an eBay auction for an early edition of 'Army Ordnance magazine Nov-Dec 1920', which features the M1919 Thompson gun in an article, a very historical article. It also has an advert with the 5th Avenue address on the rear of the magazine, some would argue it is the first advert for the Model of 1921.

After I won that auction, I discovered I had been bidding against at least one other prominent Thompson collector/ Author.
 

It’s listed as buy it now and can be your for $500  ! 

[Arthur Fliegenheimer]

The George Goll November 30, 1929 letter under General Expenses:

Quote

"Work done by Mr. Wild making drawing of Cutts  Compensator as used on Cal. 45 Submachine Gun and of front sight. This drawing was necessary to have for Lyman to manufacture as we had no drawing before due to the fact  Fenn  had made their own drawing from a sample compensator and front sight"

This is in reference to Fenn Manufacturing Company which has been discussed on the board.  Seems they had a "special device" for attaching the Cutts to the barrel. The question was whether this was accomplished with the barrel on or off the receiver. 

 

[SparksNArcs]

With regards to compensator production, who was the original manufacturer prior to Lyman making them? I'm not that well versed with he history of the Colt production of M1921s. 

A few other questions that may not have easy answers:

Are the orders with A prefixes listed in reference to sales of Colt Thompsons, or are the order numbers not relatable to known orders?

Given that Compensators were retrofitted when desired, could the "barrel work on #4683" be in reference to adding a compensator to M1921 #4683?

Goll notes sending a letter to Remington, I assume in regards to stock furniture?

[Arthur Fliegenheimer]

2 hours ago, SparksNArcs said:

Given that Compensators were retrofitted when desired, could the "barrel work on #4683" be in reference to adding a compensator to M1921 #4683?

Indeed it could. Interestingly G.H. has #4683 listed as a 1921 AC shipped to two different purchasers on 4/14/29 and 7/23/29. This was several months before the Goll letter date of November 30, 1929.  The original unmarked Cutts Comp appeared in 1926 and then the Diamond Logo marked Cutts appeared in 1928.  Whether AOC processing  orders requesting a Cutts to be retrofitted (to a Colt TSMG in stock or one that was returned)  after the Type II Cutts was available  in 1928 ever installed the Type I unmarked Cutts  is unknown. 

[Taliaferro]

For a complete rundown on compensator may I suggest you reading Volume one chapter eight. 
 

Happy New Year 

 

Tracie