colt21a Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 YOU MEAN A M249 WITH 2 37MM LAUNCHERS ASIDE IT.JUST A GUN SHOW BUY ME PROP FROM YEARS AGO. I had 3 M249s sold them all, it was a fun run for decades.and well over 5,000 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 (edited) ATF called last week asking me if I had a Hurley gun in my inventory that someone transferred to me 37 years ago. No, I do not and never have. He emailed me a copy of the approved form 3 with my name on it and said there was a form 3 approved to another class 3 dealer with the same serial number about the same time. After a couple of days of research, I found that it was a typo on the form 3 by the dealer in San Antonio that was never voided. In any case, I called him back, and we worked it all out. I hinted how screwed up the BATF was in DC back then and he concurred. While I had him on the phone, I struck up a conversation pertaining to Pre-86 samples becoming transferable and he said that was true. I asked him about a factory Pre-86 HK MP5K that I kept all these years, and he confirmed that it was now classified as transferable. Nice stroke of luck. Not many of these around. I still probably have about 20 or so Pre-86's in stock so maybe I will get lucky again. Also speaks as to why so many class 3 dealers have been calling me wanting to buy Pre-86 samples over the last couple of months. Edited March 11 by firearm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillinBama Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 I haven't checked in a while to see if any more of my guns have changed status. I originally had four to change, but after a few days two reverted back to pre status. Now I see that one of my MP5's has changed, whoo-hoo! Kind of like a tax refund check you didn't know was coming. Should I sell it before it changes again? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 ATF document dealing with this subject. Meat of the matter begins on page 16. https://www.atf.gov/docs/undefined/fair2024-nfa922opresentationnfad508cpdf/download This from page 21 - "Machineguns Imported for Government Use and Lawfully Possessed Prior to May 19, 1986 • NFA Division has experienced increased inquiries questioning whether a pre-86, imported machinegun is transferable. • ATF is aware that it has been reported that ATF has determined that “4,000” pre-86, imported machineguns are now transferable. • This is false." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillinBama Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, RoscoeTurner said: ATF document dealing with this subject. Meat of the matter begins on page 16. https://www.atf.gov/docs/undefined/fair2024-nfa922opresentationnfad508cpdf/download This from page 21 - "Machineguns Imported for Government Use and Lawfully Possessed Prior to May 19, 1986 • NFA Division has experienced increased inquiries questioning whether a pre-86, imported machinegun is transferable. • ATF is aware that it has been reported that ATF has determined that “4,000” pre-86, imported machineguns are now transferable. • This is false." So...it's only 3999? We know some amount have been changed, but they are keeping the total number secret I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Further down on page 18. "• Is the imported machinegun transferable? • It depends: – Was the machinegun lawfully imported on an ATF Form 6 and registered on an ATF Form 2 before May 19, 1986? – Was a Form 5 approved transferring and registering the machinegun to the government customer upon importation? – Upon approval of the Form 5, was the machinegun transferred to the government customer for official use? • If the answer to all three of these questions is “Yes,” then the machinegun is transferable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I. Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 From a good source the number is approximately 1400. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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