Good news from the ATF

[Rabbit57]

 

[68coupe]

Stay tuned to see how this plays out. If it's true, it's a very good thing, but the anti-gun crowd may not have heard or had time to formulate a plan yet.

Keep those fingers crossed and knock on every wood gunstock you come across. LOL

Karl, 68coupe

Edited May 10, 2024 by 68coupe
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[Got Uzi]

Old news, several threads on here and Sturm discussing this….ill believe it when it’s in writing and someone explains how they made the 1968 GCA null and void….sorry boys but don’t go looking for a big payday like some are already doing as you are opening yourself up to legal issues….and there could be other legal issues for the ones that started all of this as well…..read the other threads and you’ll understand 

[katanafred]

Has anyone here had a Form 4 transfer turnaround in aweek yet?

[pvt81pvi]

I did have an e-filed app for a suppressor go through in 4 days, filed on Friday, approved on Monday ( 2 months ago).  Maybe helped that a mailed-in application for a different suppressor took 9 months, the e-filed one was filed 2 weeks after the approval for the first one.

Edited May 11, 2024 by pvt81pvi

[Maine-iac]

1 hour ago, katanafred said:

Has anyone here had a Form 4 transfer turnaround in aweek yet?

My brother bought a can on Friday, had it approved on Monday.

[colt21a]

Sounds like all you guys are having fun.Just think w/o the net. nobody would know anything....it would be all dum down turnips in a field..How did we ever get to do anything in my time?with stone tools, carvings. and ancient papyrus and old ink... and now its easy and can care less.what the future holds for those in need.

[katanafred]

6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

My brother bought a can on Friday, had it approved on Monday.

😀😀😀

 

37 minutes ago, pvt81pvi said:

I did have an e-filed app for a suppressor go through in 4 days, filed on Friday, approved on Monday ( 2 months ago).  Maybe helped that a mailed-in application for a different suppressor took 9 months, the e-filed one was filed 2 weeks after the approval for the first one.

I previously had an e-filed Form 1 approved in a month a few years ago and figured that since I was "in the ATF database" that my e-filed Form 4 would turnaround faster ... it still took 7-8 months a year ago. That's amazing that Form 4's are turning around in a week now!!!

[full auto 45]

I sold my West Hurley 1928 on April 2, 2023. Still waiting for approval! I talked to them (BATFE) last week, they told they are still waiting on the FBI background check. They received the paperwork on April 5, 2023. Even the agent I talked to said, "Wow, that has been a while." In the mean-time, I bought a suppressor and it was in my hands 6 months to the day I sent it in.

[colt21a]

can i ask you you wealthy guys how do you do any bizz anymore at all buying $25g to $100g guns?i had a few hard times buying 10 Colt 21's at one time for $50g and now at $500g IMPOSSIBLE!! I remember buying 65 polytechs at once for $32g on a single buy on a guy getting out of bizz.today would be over $200g it has eaten away any profit margins today.

 

a freaking  single Mac 10 for $12 g. when i would buy ten at a time for $5g.

I CAN SEE HOW MANY SAID SCREW IT.

AND MANY OLD PLAYERSdon't even bother to look. if it was worth $10g to me it sure is not worth $50g inflated and greed. and i am sure every 25 to 30 year old today is hopping to get one. 

[SP Sarge]

Vepr12 short barrel shotgun, came back in 48 hours an an efile a few weeks ago.

[colt21a]

2 hours ago, SP Sarge said:

Vepr12 short barrel shotgun, came back in 48 hours an an efile a few weeks ago.

sp sarge. luv i,t had 2 of those with also 2 tromix customs. and the old L.E. imported Russian sidefolders they brought in i think like 25.they are great. and congrats on the paperwork time,enjoy that one.

[SP Sarge]

Thanks Ron, that one came from Dissident Arm in Texas.

[colt21a]

Good guys there just bought a few of the flash hiders they sell, fast delivery never any hassles.

[spall]

On 5/11/2024 at 12:59 PM, katanafred said:

Has anyone here had a Form 4 transfer turnaround in aweek yet?

It seems the guys filing Individual are getting them quickly. I'm at 2 weeks on both a Form 4 and a Form 1 with a traditional NFA trust. There's rumor that the "standardized" trusts (like the Silencershop single shot trusts with a single responsible person) are closer to the approval times for individuals. This is a bit ridiculous when you consider the single shot trust as the 41F loophole that it really is.

Plenty of folks on the NFA subreddit claiming they were approved in mere hours for individual submissions.

[Got Uzi]

I’ve got a guy who filed seven Form 4 individual items on March 24 and they still haven’t been approved. They even had electronic prints!

[spall]

On 5/13/2024 at 7:17 PM, Got Uzi said:

I’ve got a guy who filed seven Form 4 individual items on March 24 and they still haven’t been approved. They even had electronic prints!

A "first in, first out" approach to NFA forms processing would make the processing times easier to defend with resource constraint excuses.

The current reality is an arguably discriminatory practice by a government agency managing applications to exercise a constitutionally guaranteed right.

I've had an eForm 4 out since last June with electronic prints. None of this makes sense.

[68coupe]

I waited 9 months for my CCW permit in Fl. Of course, that was when a devout Democrat was the Secretary of Agriculture. They claim(ed) that veterans got preference, and it was only after I brought this up, TWICE, that it finally went through.

Karl, 68coupe

[Got Uzi]

Those Form 4’s finally came back Thursday. still have some that are at 14 months tho. 
 

The problem with the Department of Ag is there aren’t any farmers or ranchers working there 

[68coupe]

1 hour ago, Got Uzi said:

The problem with the Department of Ag is there aren’t any farmers or ranchers working there 

Right? They're all professional bureaucrats or career politicians. Same's true at the NICS department of the FBI. Just my own humble opinion, although, I'm sure there are some caring, hard working individuals. BTW, what does a CCW permit have to do with agriculture, anyway? LOL

Karl, 68coupe

[TD.]

I would guess all the senior employees at the FBI National Crime Information Center or NCIC are well versed in the system. Obviously, new employees take time to train but all in all, I think this program runs pretty well. You have to remember the old adage, garbage in, garbage out, when dealing with any computer system including NCIC. That is why investigators in the field will always go to the source of the NCIC information to verify and document if important to the investigation at hand. The information in NCIC is not really evidence, but it will lead an investigator to evidence. That said, when attempting to make a vehicle traffic stop and the dispatcher tells you NCIC reveals the car is stolen, you take the dispatcher at their word!   

[colt21a]

HOPE THEY NEVER REPORT ALL GUNS MARKED WITH US PROPERTY ARE STOLEN AND SUBJECT TO TURN IN NOW.

Thompsons, 45's, greasers, 03a3,garands, carbines.and all M-16 M-4 style.WAITING FOR SOME CLOWN POLITICIAN to tell us that now.They give us a few things and take more away.I DON'T THINK NOW IS A TIME TO BE INTO CLASS 3....Way too pricey. 

[DARIVS]

My recent transfer using the old paper submittal method of a C&R gun which was completed 2 months ago took 282 days.  It's good news that the e-transfers are going much faster, especially for guys who need to transfer suppressors.

[colt21a]

So do all you guys pay 100% upfront now and wait a year to get the keys to drive the car you just paid for?OR DOES THE SELLER SAY ONLY 50% DOWN.AND YOU PAY UPON PICK-UP NOW...I CAN'T IMAGINE DROPPING $26G ON SOMETHING.AND WAITING 6 MONTHS OR LONGER.

I BOUGHT SOME GUNS RECENTLY UNDER $5,000 AND SAYS WILL JUST PICK THEM UP.EVERYBODY TODAY MUST BE A REAL RICH PLAYER. PAY AND FORGET ABOUT IT.

[68coupe]

4 minutes ago, colt21a said:

So do all you guys pay 100% upfront now and wait a year to get the keys to drive the car you just paid for?OR DOES THE SELLER SAY ONLY 50% DOWN.AND YOU PAY UPON PICK-UP NOW...I CAN'T IMAGINE DROPPING $26G ON SOMETHING.AND WAITING 6 MONTHS OR LONGER.

I BOUGHT SOME GUNS RECENTLY UNDER $5,000 AND SAYS WILL JUST PICK THEM UP.EVERYBODY TODAY MUST BE A REAL RICH PLAYER. PAY AND FORGET ABOUT IT.

The ATF sure seems to think so. I guess an agent makes that in a few days or minutes, right? It don't sound right, in the colloquial. They're playing with a lot of other peoples' money, leaving folks out there hangin'.

Just my humble opinion, 68coupe