Ballpark for non-matching AO Thompson M1928A1

[texasguns67]

What is ballpark value for AO Thompson (serial # 98xxx) non-matching: Savage barrel, bolt, no serial number on lower, refinished)?  It may be part of a trade I'm doing. I'm just looking for a fun shooter, not trying to be a Thompson collector. 

[Countryboy77]

I would say that's a pretty nice shooter .AOC didn't make barrels,I'm not sure about bolts.Obvious refinish.This market between $26,000 and $30,000

Edited November 25, 2024 by Countryboy77

[Got Uzi]

I would agree with that estimate. 

[TD.]

I would guess (and it is just a guess) the matching frame was lost when it was re-barreled. See if the compensator pin is flattened on one or both sides.  I can see your concerns for it being refinished too but really cannot see enough to know for sure. Regarding the frame, is there any evidence of a serial number being removed? Are the FULL AUTO markings on one line or two lines. Pictures would help. If I were doing a trade, I would value it at 25K so I had some room for a small profit if I decided to sell it in the future. 

Oh, Auto-Ordnance at Bridgeport (AOB) did make bolts. But AOB Thompsons with Savage bolts are very common.   

[texasguns67]

Here are more pics. Thanks everyone for your responses thus far.

[texasguns67]

One more of lower w/ no serial number. 

[Countryboy77]

That lower is a Correct AOC type si that's good ,What's the serial # look like.Does it say NAC after the number or have a ridiculously low serial for war time as I've seen NAC guns that were assembled using leftover ww2 parts and some frames were like that when assembled so it can be an Original Numrich assembled post ww2 on ww2 parts and not a ww2 gun that was armory refurbished with whatever parts they had

[Countryboy77]

Let me ask,how does the stock fit?Is it pretty wobbly up and down? If it is maybe somone sanitized the number on the bottom because it wasn't matching ,certainly has the abrasive scuffs in the finish like somone went at it with sandpaper

[Bridgeport28A1]

I would add that IMHO the Lyman adjustable rear sight has also been added at some point in it's life. The 98,XXX serial number is late for a factory adjustable rear sight plus the rivets visible inside the receiver do not look like AOC factory rivets. The front sight is not a factory installation. The AOC 98,XXX serial number is approximately 2/3rds of the way through AOC 1928A1 production which started later then the Savage plant

My MG dealer in 1988 asked me if I wanted a Lyman adjustable swapped out for my L sight for $200 when I bought my AOC 1928A1. I passed on the offer and left the factory plain L sight on the gun along with it's smooth barrel. He worked at a facility building Browning M2 MG so the rivet job i am assuming would have been top notch. 

[texasguns67]

Serial number area:

[texasguns67]

I don't have access to gun, only pics so can't say about stock fit.  Definitely don't think this is a Numrich gun. 

[Got Uzi]

15 hours ago, Countryboy77 said:

I would say that's a pretty nice shooter .AOC didn't make barrels,I'm not sure about bolts.Obvious refinish.This market between $26,000 and $30,000

AOC did make barrels, or at least M1 barrels....I know this as I have one on my AOC M1 "A1" thats an AO-44 rebuild

[Countryboy77]

2 hours ago, Bridgeport28A1 said:

I would add that IMHO the Lyman adjustable rear sight has also been added at some point in it's life. The 98,XXX serial number is late for a factory adjustable rear sight plus the rivets visible inside the receiver do not look like AOC factory rivets. The front sight is not a factory installation. The AOC 98,XXX serial number is approximately 2/3rds of the way through AOC 1928A1 production which started later then the Savage plant

My MG dealer in 1988 asked me if I wanted a Lyman adjustable swapped out for my L sight for $200 when I bought my AOC 1928A1. I passed on the offer and left the factory plain L sight on the gun along with it's smooth barrel. He worked at a facility building Browning M2 MG so the rivet job i am assuming would have been top notch. 

I was thinking that about the rear sight but was not sure,actuator and paddle pivot and safety I also believe not correct as they never had knurled actuator and by then they went to the simplified 'pin'not 'paddle'style Controls. I was always under the impression AO didn't make barrels but that may be My mistake as my reasearch has mainly been around grandpas 1928 so it may be I read they never made 1928 barrels.Eigther way its a nice shooter and while some would say not a 'Collectable' I would beg to differ as they are so límited somone would Definitely throw in in their Gun Collection.I think I would do my homework and get parts swapped to make it original as possible( or at least buy the parts to keep on hand).Hell get somone to engrave to lower so it matches its been done before.The only real downside is the blanchard finish is gone when it was refinished and that's the main thing that hurts the collectability. But considering how much in demand good guns are you cannot go wrong with this one. I'm guessing she was a bit rough some rust putting and the refinish looks like it was the right call to preserve the gun.

Edited November 25, 2024 by Countryboy77

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6 hours ago, Got Uzi said:

AOC did make barrels, or at least M1 barrels....I know this as I have one on my AOC M1 "A1" thats an AO-44 rebuild

They made 28s also.

[Got Uzi]

Good to know on the 1928 AOC barrels.

[JBabb]

Gun is from my personal collection if anyone has any further interest, the OP and I were discussing a trade that has since fallen through.

This Thompson is an AO 1928A1 with no serial number on the lower, however, both the upper and lower are factory Auto Ordnance / Bridgeport, s/n is AO98xxx with no NAC suffix or prefix.  

It looks to have been nicely refinished at some point with the replacement barrel, bolt, and actuator, all being Savage "S" marked.  The Blish lock is AOC marked.

It is a fantastic shooter!