Remo Williams 1 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Another K on Gunbroker. See link: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1084148251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 It's an MB series so unless it's been gone over by a competent gunsmith..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labanaktis Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) edited Edited Tuesday at 12:26 PM by johnsonlmg41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, StrangeRanger said: It's an MB series so unless it's been gone over by a competent gunsmith..... Spot on. It appears to be an early period Andrewski refurbish (Back when the guns were <$5K), so as John has repeatedly told me, most the MB guns (even his earlier jobs) need attention. Nice rig... I wish I had the cash, I'd buy it and let John do his thing. My "Mac Daddy" MB series is a totally gorgeous gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, johnsonlmg41 said: Not really relevant. Any issues are pretty easy fixes and the guns are simple. Of the last 9 guns I took in from one recent deal, so far one in 5 was running properly. 3 I still haven't tested, but I know one has issues just by what it is and I know it's unfired-as new, but the original mfr. has known issues. I was told all of them worked "fine", but doing this a number of years that's not generally the case. I believe the seller truly thought they all worked in his mind, but most people are fairly clueless. That was Stranger Ranger's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I note that the gun is a Port Said unit, but has a Crown shroud... wonder where the mix-up happened as these guns were made using kits, so maybe it was installed later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labanaktis Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 There were many dealers that bought “MB” receivers from Wilson. I know of 3 that had 25-30 each. Some were built nice and some not so…. Andrewski is in the business to rebuild them to the highest level available, BUT there are others that do an exceptional job to. side note: I sent one of mine to him around 5-6 years ago. I asked him to rebuild it with my supplied, pristine select fire kit. I asked him to blue ALL the parts that were supposed to be blued including the stock hardware, front pins, fire control group, exc. I told him I understood the build process and understood the amount of extra work it would take compared with his standard build he was doing then…. Mine was the first he ever took that far and when it was done he said he couldn’t believe the difference it made and would be building them that way going forward. He did mention he quit counting after 40 hours… the guy is talented and did a nice job. It is deadly accurate and people with other K’s are impressed with how it shoots. He is a professional gunsmith. Some want a shooter for fun, some want function over looks, some want investment grade and some want an original example. Transferable’s are what we can own… at the end of the day Wilson’s & Pearls will get the job done but are just copies of the originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 19 minutes ago, Labanaktis said: There were many dealers that bought “MB” receivers from Wilson. I know of 3 that had 25-30 each. Some were built nice and some not so…. Andrewski is in the business to rebuild them to the highest level available, BUT there are others that do an exceptional job to. side note: I sent one of mine to him around 5-6 years ago. I asked him to rebuild it with my supplied, pristine select fire kit. I asked him to blue ALL the parts that were supposed to be blued including the stock hardware, front pins, fire control group, exc. I told him I understood the build process and understood the amount of extra work it would take compared with his standard build he was doing then…. Mine was the first he ever took that far and when it was done he said he couldn’t believe the difference it made and would be building them that way going forward. He did mention he quit counting after 40 hours… the guy is talented and did a nice job. It is deadly accurate and people with other K’s are impressed with how it shoots. He is a professional gunsmith. Some want a shooter for fun, some want function over looks, some want investment grade and some want an original example. Transferable’s are what we can own… at the end of the day Wilson’s & Pearls will get the job done but are just copies of the originals. So correct. Yours was the standard.... until he did mine! I just gave him carte blanc to do what it took to make the gun gorgeous. Same result... well worth every penny. I have yet to shoot it as my other K is my shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labanaktis Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Every part on my Wilson receiver is Swedish… What makes yours the new standard as you put it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisfan Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 This gun was re-done by Andrewski fairly recently (last 5-6 years, I'd have to check). A complete spare parts kit was supplied and painted to match the refinished gun. It looks like they're selling the spares that went with the gun when I had it re-done. Great looking gun. I know this as I put the moleskin on the brass catcher when I got it back from John. I don't believe that I included the drum pouch when I sold it. I think it is a PPSH drum pouch but not sure. If you want a gun with spares that has been "gone over", then this is a great choice. Free plug for the Seller. I have no idea if it's traded hands since I sold it and I don't know the Seller. I do know the rebuild history since I had it done by John (typical great work). I had 2 K guns "re-done" at the same time and ended up selling this one to help start a business at the time. I kept the select-fire conversion. I wish that I could've kept all the NFA that I've had and sold over the years. I've been fortunate to have had some nice and rare pieces pass through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, Labanaktis said: Every part on my Wilson receiver is Swedish… What makes yours the new standard as you put it? See the smiley face? That was a jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, Lewisfan said: This gun was re-done by Andrewski fairly recently (last 5-6 years, I'd have to check). A complete spare parts kit was supplied and painted to match the refinished gun. It looks like they're selling the spares that went with the gun when I had it re-done. Great looking gun. I know this as I put the moleskin on the brass catcher when I got it back from John. I don't believe that I included the drum pouch when I sold it. I think it is a PPSH drum pouch but not sure. If you want a gun with spares that has been "gone over", then this is a great choice. Free plug for the Seller. I have no idea if it's traded hands since I sold it and I don't know the Seller. I do know the rebuild history since I had it done by John (typical great work). I had 2 K guns "re-done" at the same time and ended up selling this one to help start a business at the time. I kept the select-fire conversion. I wish that I could've kept all the NFA that I've had and sold over the years. I've been fortunate to have had some nice and rare pieces pass through. I'd love to have a select fire version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labanaktis Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) Honestly, I’ve used it twice for a new shooter. They were intimidated by it. Plus you need another kit for spare parts because the fire control group has parts that are not easily made. I prefer the Original with updated endcap, shroud with the retaining ring and riveted mag well, non select fire. It’s a bulletproof design and nothing can go wrong. My favorite factory configuration Edited January 12 by Labanaktis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 19 hours ago, Labanaktis said: Honestly, I’ve used it twice for a new shooter. They were intimidated by it. Plus you need another kit for spare parts because the fire control group has parts that are not easily made. I prefer the Original with updated endcap, shroud with the retaining ring and riveted mag well, non select fire. It’s a bulletproof design and nothing can go wrong. My favorite factory configuration So my Andrewski MB series rebuild is probably very close to yours. John rebuilt, rewelded, re-riveted & smoothed all seams, and then reblued every possible part on the gun (including the main spring!). He then made (my gun is a std FA M45) an updated end cap. The gun is all Swedish parts, and includes a M45C shroud (with bayonet lug). The result is just gorgeous, and a masterpiece of his work. He also refinished a complete brass catcher assembly and a number of crown magazines plus two drums. I've amassed a number of coffin mags (with leather carry case) and of course the leather stick magazine pouch. My other gun is a late model L series Andrewski gun, Port Said parts, gun metal gray finish. solid gun, great looking and the one I shoot, and the one that I use my integral silencer with. Performs with excellence, just a great gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remo Williams 1 Posted January 16 Author Report Share Posted January 16 The seller reduced the price. I was hoping he would sell some of the spares. Looking for a barrel shroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCsean Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 On 1/13/2025 at 8:19 AM, Rekraps said: So my Andrewski MB series rebuild is probably very close to yours. John rebuilt, rewelded, re-riveted & smoothed all seams, and then reblued every possible part on the gun (including the main spring!). He then made (my gun is a std FA M45) an updated end cap. The gun is all Swedish parts, and includes a M45C shroud (with bayonet lug). The result is just gorgeous, and a masterpiece of his work. He also refinished a complete brass catcher assembly and a number of crown magazines plus two drums. I've amassed a number of coffin mags (with leather carry case) and of course the leather stick magazine pouch. My other gun is a late model L series Andrewski gun, Port Said parts, gun metal gray finish. solid gun, great looking and the one I shoot, and the one that I use my integral silencer with. Performs with excellence, just a great gun. Can you share pics of the coffin mag carrying case and the stick mag carrying case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damifino Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) Here are some pics of mine. Edited April 16 by damifino added pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCsean Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Ok. Those are for the Swiss Hispano Suizza Mp43/44, which is a Finnish Suomi Kp31 based rifle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisfan Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Interesting on the Hispano case. I have a couple of those cases. I also have these two coffin mag cases. The nice condition case (with ? Swedish crown stamp) is one of the "stick" mag cases that I have. On a related note - what is the "correct" way to recondition the leather on these cases? I have some that get a whitish colored fungus(?). Others are needing moisture and cleaning. Any proven suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCsean Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 1st Case: I’ve see. Unsure at the moment. 2nd Case: Swedish m/37-39 case. Again, a Suomi based SMG made by Husqvarna unlicensed and kinda unique. 3rd Case: CG m/45 case. As far as preserving leather, use a product called Pecard’s Leather Dressing. It’s used museums worldwide. It won’t darken leather like neatsfoot oil and others will. It will soften up leather and make them nice and supple again. I’ve used it on many slings for many years. Swedish m/37-39 SMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisfan Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 What's the "CG" designation for the M45 case? Thanks for the info and recommendation on leather treatment. Case 1 - the actual main part of the case is a rigid non-leather material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCsean Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Carl Gustafs. Haha. Are there any markings on the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisfan Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 No markings other than handwritten something on the front. I think it says "King's gun pouch - do not lose"... But then again I actually don't speak Swedish so I may be mistaken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCsean Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Looks like a name. 132 K. M….d or I32 K. M….d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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