WTB: Russian PPSH41 bolt, complete.

[Rekraps]

anyone?

[RoscoeTurner]

How much do those go for now?

[Rekraps]

On 5/1/2025 at 9:51 AM, RoscoeTurner said:

How much do those go for now?

Complete, nice condition.. anywhere from $125 to $175. I was able to get one at $125 (I polish it up etc. myself). 

But, they are increasingly hard to find..

[APEXgunparts]

I don't see many PPsH-41 parts around anymore.
What I do see is usually Polish or possibly Hungarian.
Importing anything of Russian origin has been increasingly restricted, either by the VRA, sanctions and the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC, who watch the transfer of funds)
Now the tariffs come into play starting at 10% on everything from the first dollar.

Richard

[Rekraps]

13 minutes ago, APEXgunparts said:

I don't see many PPsH-41 parts around anymore.
What I do see is usually Polish or possibly Hungarian.
Importing anything of Russian origin has been increasingly restricted, either by the VRA, sanctions and the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC, who watch the transfer of funds)
Now the tariffs come into play starting at 10% on everything from the first dollar.

Richard

Thanks Richard. I have on occasion had issues with Polish and/or Hungarian bolts working perfectly in Russian WW2 guns, so I try to stick to what I call OEM for my guns.

[RoscoeTurner]

2 hours ago, Rekraps said:

Complete, nice condition.. anywhere from $125 to $175. I was able to get one at $125 (I polish it up etc. myself). 

But, they are increasingly hard to find..

Thanks, I have several just wondered if it was worth digging them out.

[APEXgunparts]

3 hours ago, Rekraps said:

Thanks Richard. I have on occasion had issues with Polish and/or Hungarian bolts working perfectly in Russian WW2 guns, so I try to stick to what I call OEM for my guns.

Interesting.
The original owner of my Russian gun had occasional issues with the matching numbered bolt feeding.
Probably why his Father got it in Korea in the first place by trading a Marine a bottle of whiskey for it (the NK Soldier who brought it to the fight didn't need it any more)
The Polish bolt he purchased for it never had any issues.
Lots of hand fitting evident in the PPsH-41 ( you see enough parts kits, you notice these things)

Richard

[StrangeRanger]

When the receiver is a heat and beat piece of heavy gauge sheet metal vs. a machined part or a nice clean tube you're inevitably going to have undesired tolerance stackups   When that piece of heavy gauge sheet metal is being manufactured in a factory which has a set production quota and when failure to meet that quota can earn management an all-expense paid vacation to Novosibersk, the stackups will increase astronomically

[Rekraps]

On 5/2/2025 at 9:17 PM, StrangeRanger said:

When the receiver is a heat and beat piece of heavy gauge sheet metal vs. a machined part or a nice clean tube you're inevitably going to have undesired tolerance stackups   When that piece of heavy gauge sheet metal is being manufactured in a factory which has a set production quota and when failure to meet that quota can earn management an all-expense paid vacation to Novosibersk, the stackups will increase astronomically

Excellent point, but from my read on history, there has never been any significant reporting on PPSH41's from WW2 having anything but reliable operations... in other words, the basic design was just so good that in spite of mass production by unskilled workers, the things just kept on shooting.

[Roland the Thompsongunner]

My matching Russian gun also had issue with the original bolt so it was put away and I have a few others I use. I have broken the small ears on the bottom of the bolt that push the round in place. The best bolts in my opinion are the polish ones as most were brand new when imported. I am glad I stocked up on parts back when they were dirt cheap. Inter ordnance was selling them for 10 bucks a piece back in the 90’s when they were turning everything into dummy guns. Drums were also 100 for 10. 

[Rekraps]

23 hours ago, Roland the Thompsongunner said:

My matching Russian gun also had issue with the original bolt so it was put away and I have a few others I use. I have broken the small ears on the bottom of the bolt that push the round in place. The best bolts in my opinion are the polish ones as most were brand new when imported. I am glad I stocked up on parts back when they were dirt cheap. Inter ordnance was selling them for 10 bucks a piece back in the 90’s when they were turning everything into dummy guns. Drums were also 100 for 10. 

How in the world did the two ears break off? I've never seen that and I run two PPSH's all the time.

[Rekraps]

And by the way, if you run surplus ammo (east bloc) do not forget to clean not only the barrel/bore, but completely disassemble the bolt (including firing pin and firing pin retaining pin) and swab with bore cleaner. Failure to do so and you'll regret it. The corrosive nature of the ammo creates almost a weld... very tough to work with.,

[Roland the Thompsongunner]

Not sure how they broke but it happened on two over the years. Have one in my workshop I think will look when I get home

[Roland the Thompsongunner]

Here is one of my bolts that broke a few years back. Caused an out of battery ignition as well

[Rekraps]

On 5/9/2025 at 8:55 AM, Roland the Thompsongunner said:

Here is one of my bolts that broke a few years back. Caused an out of battery ignition as well

Wow, I've never heard of this. That's a Russian bolt? I guess having a few extra is a good thing.

[Roland the Thompsongunner]

Yah Russian bolt. I mostly used polish bolts when I use the gun now. I used to use the gun hard doing re-enactments but since then maybe 1000 rounds a year or so