Suppressor tax stamp going away?

[BillinBama]

Part of the current Tax bill eliminates the $200 tax stamp on suppressors.  Hope it holds.  

https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/blogs/nfa-gun-trust-atf-information-database-blog/trumps-big-beautiful-bill-eliminates-the-excise-tax-of-suppressors

[68coupe]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the sense of doing away with the tax without striking them from NFA registry.

My humble 2cents, Karl

[Rekraps]

6 hours ago, 68coupe said:

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the sense of doing away with the tax without striking them from NFA registry.

My humble 2cents, Karl

Free money for Uncle Sam. Plus, let’s admit, with no tax stamp as a form of limitation on access, criminals are going to be the number one buyers. 

[Zenithnadir]

Guess that will make me a criminal!

[Merry Ploughboy]

On 5/22/2025 at 1:22 PM, Zenithnadir said:

Guess that will make me a criminal!

[response deleted]

Edited May 24, 2025 by Merry Ploughboy

[johnsonlmg41]

Reading

 

Edited June 20, 2025 by johnsonlmg41

[BillinBama]

Anybody know what the final bill the House passed contains? 

[timkel]

1 hour ago, BillinBama said:

Anybody know what the final bill the House passed contains? 

It removed Suppressors from NFA. Next it has to survive the senate. The shorty bill is in play in the senate. So still more drama to come. Nothing is certain till Trump signs.

[timkel]

Here you go,

https://www.gunowners.org/na052225/

[APEXgunparts]

There may be blowback from taking the suppressors off of the registry.
There are 17 states (including Colorado) that they are currently legal to own because of the NFA process (it creates an affirmative defense in Colorado and Alaska).
Remove them from the NFA registry and the state laws come into play.
There is one very good video presentation on the subject:
Fed Law causes 16 states to ban suppressors...

He doesn't include Colorado, but it is a problem here too.
What I am not clear on is if they will still be regulated like a firearm, requiring a 4473 to purchase, or if they just become add on accessory like any other muzzle break.

Richard
 

[StrangeRanger]

I thought the proposal was to leave them in the registry but with a zero dollar tax stamp

Edited May 23, 2025 by StrangeRanger

[timkel]

1 hour ago, StrangeRanger said:

I thought the proposal was to leave them in the registry but with a zero dollar tax stamp

The 0$ tax was proposed. But the final text of the bill called for removal.

[johnsonlmg41]

reading

Edited June 20, 2025 by johnsonlmg41

[RoscoeTurner]

1 hour ago, johnsonlmg41 said:

No actually, my post above is and copied and pasted directly from the bill.  https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

Only the tax is removed, the process stays.

That is what I am finding also on official House websites, it is only on the NRA and similar organizations' websites that I see them touting the removal of suppressors from the NFA.

[RoscoeTurner]

So far the best analysis of what is going on with this subject I have found.
 

 

[johnsonlmg41]

Reading is fundamental

Edited June 20, 2025 by johnsonlmg41

[timkel]

1 hour ago, RoscoeTurner said:

So far the best analysis of what is going on with this subject I have found.
 

 

Agree, still lots of time left in this football game. 

[Don.]

9 hours ago, johnsonlmg41 said:

Somehow, you just know Repub. will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? 

BOOM!!  That’s exactly what they will do.  Plenty of them in the senate to derail anything beneficial for us plebes.

 The rinos are worse than the commies.  At least the commies are truthful with their intentions of bending us over.  Rinos piss on our backs and tell us it’s raining.

[Got Uzi]

Here’s my take on this-if the bill doesn’t have the support or the merits to stand on its own, any bill not just this one, QUIT ADDING IT TO OTHER BILLS!! This lumping crap together needs to stop!

Just like the discussion over on Sturm-I’m not holding my breath on this and I honestly have a bad feeling that this is going to turn out worse than better when it’s all said and done. 

[StrangeRanger]

Not getting much mention but even more likely to create problems is the proposed SHORT Act which would eliminate the categories of SBR and SBS from the Registry and require ATF to destroy all relevant records.  The patchwork of state laws that it would inevitably create would be  a nightmare.  It probably has zero chance of passing but the sponsors need to re-think what they are trying to achieve

The limits of 26" OAL, 16" rifle barrels and 18" shotgun barrels were intended to achieve the "valid public purpose" of keeping concealable long guns out of the hands of known malefactors.  However those limits are self contradictory.  An AR with a 16" barrel is about 35" long, an 870 or 11-87 with an 18" barrel is about 38" long so if "concealability" is defined by the 26" OAL requirement then the barrel length restrictions are meaningless in terms of the stated intent of the law.  The barrel length limits could be reduced or eliminated and that revision would be far more likely to be enacted than eliminating the categories entirely

[APEXgunparts]

This podcast goes a different direction on the suppressor issue.

Apparently the DOJ under President Trump is making some legal moves to help.

DOJ MAKES MAJOR PRO-2A CONCESSION…Mark W. Smith

Congress Should Remove Suppressors from the NFA

 

Richard

[RoscoeTurner]

51 minutes ago, APEXgunparts said:

This podcast goes a different direction on the suppressor issue.

Apparently the DOJ under President Trump is making some legal moves to help.

DOJ MAKES MAJOR PRO-2A CONCESSION…Mark W. Smith

Congress Should Remove Suppressors from the NFA

 

Richard

I stopped listening to Mark Smith last year, nearly every podcast is "Major breaking news" when most of the time it is not.

[BillinBama]

15 hours ago, RoscoeTurner said:

I stopped listening to Mark Smith last year, nearly every podcast is "Major breaking news" when most of the time it is not.

"Breaking News" is an industry-wide come-on when it almost always is days old news.  In this day of instant communication I think of "breaking news" as something that happened ten minutes ago, or less. 

[Gold1927a1]

On 5/21/2025 at 6:08 PM, Rekraps said:

Free money for Uncle Sam. Plus, let’s admit, with no tax stamp as a form of limitation on access, criminals are going to be the number one buyers. 

you still  need to pass a bg check like any other firearm.

[BillinBama]

3 hours ago, Gold1927a1 said:

you still  need to pass a bg check like any other firearm.

Yes, I don't see much if any increase in criminals buying suppressors. The Form 4 questionaire/info , plus fingerprints examined by the FBI will eliminate most bad actors.  Criminals are not going to go to all the trouble of submitting a Form 4 with  photo and print cards, unless they are exceptionally stupid (not to discount the abject stupidity of most bad guys), so that argument doesn't hold water.  I don't know the percentage, but I would guess the vast majority of guns used in crimes are stolen or purchased black market/straw purchase.