LDog2012 Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 I have a Class III license. I just bought a nice Thompson 1928A1 that is currently on a form 4. The seller is not a dealer. Can he e-file the transfer to me on a Form 3? Thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Nope not possible. Form 3’s are for dealers to use. You’ll have to pay the $200 and submit a paper form 4. Sorry but you get to play the waiting game on this one. No 24-72 hour approval in your future lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDog2012 Posted July 26 Author Report Share Posted July 26 Got it. Thanks. I’ll wait it out and hope the Form 4 transfer times go quicker than in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Paper Form 4’s from individual to dealer is 2-4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Sergeant Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 I had a form 4 to form 4 on a Thompson go in 5 1/2 weeks with-in the past month. The buyer and I were both pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDog2012 Posted October 26 Author Report Share Posted October 26 Nice! The above mentioned transfer from a Form 4 to my Form 3 took only three weeks. I was also pleasantly surprised. Of course that as before the shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillinBama Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 I have a Form 4 submitted 9-26-25 from an individual to me, I'm hoping to receive the approval in the next couple of weeks, but the shutdown will probably slow that down some. Once I receive it i'll be transferring it to a buyer via an E-file Form 3. They keep saying e-filed Form 4's are coming, but I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Guns are not "on" particular forms. The forms are transactional. If either party is not an SOT licensee, a tax-paid Form 4 is used. A tax-free Form 3 is used only when both parties are SOT licensees. Thinking that a gun is "on" a form is a common misconception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 On 11/4/2025 at 5:34 AM, AlexanderA said: Guns are not "on" particular forms. The forms are transactional. If either party is not an SOT licensee, a tax-paid Form 4 is used. A tax-free Form 3 is used only when both parties are SOT licensees. Thinking that a gun is "on" a form is a common misconception. ^^^^^^ Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 Recently, I have had paper form 4s approved in less than 1 week and some over 9 months. It's definitely seems to be a crapshoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 3 hours ago, maxfaxdude said: Recently, I have had paper form 4s approved in less than 1 week and some over 9 months. It's definitely seems to be a crapshoot... Right now, people are holding off on filing Forms 1 and 4 (on everything except machine guns and destructive devices), because the tax goes to zero on Jan. 1st. So I imagine that approval times are fast, since the ATF workload is low. There's going to be a flood of applications starting in January. Let's see how long the processing takes then. ATF just published some proposals regarding the new editions of the forms (made necessary by the zero tax, but also an opportunity for simplification). Big changes. First of all, the CLEO notification is being dropped. Married couples can file jointly without using a trust. Pictures can take many forms, including a copy of a driver's license (and they won't be attached to the form). Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68coupe Posted November 6 Report Share Posted November 6 I, for one, can hardly wait to see the results of the several lawsuits pending to eliminate the items that will no longer be taxed from the NFA, as that was the legal basis for creating it. "We'll tax them out of existence". $200 isn't the same deterrent it once was... Karl, 68coupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderA Posted November 6 Report Share Posted November 6 Just because the tax rate is zero doesn't mean that the tax itself, in theory, doesn't exist. I imagine that that will be the rationale for keeping the regulatory part of the NFA in place regarding silencers, SBRs, etc. (I hope I'm wrong in this assessment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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