Burke Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Forum! Have I found an elusive canvas case for our beloved Thompson?! It's not listed, or described as reproduction. I has the US Army surplus smell to it! I was in for ten years so I am familiar... https://www.sarcoinc.com/thompson-overall-canvas-gun-cover/ They look great and the price can't be beat! It is for the short barrel version.... Not the type to buy them up and over charge. I would rather see us all win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDog2012 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 According to the picture in Frank's book (third ed. page 267) this is a repro. The font is way too small and the snaps are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burke Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 Ok, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Back in Dec 2012 I posted the following pictures of a canvas case, and frame for the case, that I had just won on eBay. I received this reply from member, Billatlanta concerning the case: "And the correct answer is: HALF-TRACK ! The cases were standard issue on all early models (qty: 2) clearly listed in parts book. If it has a part # on it it will begin with "G-102*" The bracket is not comonly seen. I could check the books and see what they list. I doubt if they were "issued" for Jeeps (maybe someone cobbled) because the Jeep never was issued Thompsons, the Half-Track was issued 2 Thompsons, first the 1928 then later the M1 (and some rifles) as standard interesting- thanks for posting. I have an original M-16 Half-Track, not for sale. Bill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) I have a couple, they all come in a wrapper. The lettering on yours do not jive, too small and the stitching should be doubled up on the leather. I think the color is suspect too. Edited January 13 by ppgcowboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) ppgcowboy, that is something else. That cover in the wrapping with its label, is worthy of inclusion in the next edition of 'American Thunder', in my humble opinion. 👏 Edited January 13 by rpbcps Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoguy Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 What were the leather tabs for ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, videoguy said: What were the leather tabs for ?? Attaching the cover to the frame, see my pictures above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, rpbcps said: ppgcowboy, that is something else. That cover in the wrapping with its label, is worthy of inclusion in the next edition of 'American Thunder', in my humble opinion. 👏 If he wants one I would be happy to provide a decent photo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 G147 on the tag is the halftrack made by International Harvestor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, Outsider said: G147 on the tag is the halftrack made by International Harvestor. As was mentioned in my post above, and ppgcowboys' post confirms that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, rpbcps said: As was mentioned in my post above, and ppgcowboys' post confirms that information. I mentioned that as when you mentioned it was for a halftrack you used the G-102 which is the white / autocar / diamond t halftrack G number, while the one in the picture has the G-147 International halftrack number. That is what surprised me is they would possibly use 2 different G numbers for the same part. All other cross over parts I have seen have used a standard G number no matter what vehicle it was used on. On the G-102 halftracks you will see G-167 parts as that was the scoutcar which preceded the G-102 halftrack design and they used some of the same parts. While the G-147 International was designed after the G-102 halftracks were in production for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Outsider said: I mentioned that as when you mentioned it was for a halftrack you used the G-102 which is the white / autocar / diamond t halftrack G number, while the one in the picture has the G-147 International halftrack number. That is what surprised me is they would possibly use 2 different G numbers for the same part. All other cross over parts I have seen have used a standard G number no matter what vehicle it was used on. On the G-102 halftracks you will see G-167 parts as that was the scoutcar which preceded the G-102 halftrack design and they used some of the same parts. While the G-147 International was designed after the G-102 halftracks were in production for several years. Interesting, thank you for that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 (edited) 16 hours ago, rpbcps said: Attaching the cover to the frame, see my pictures above. Here are a few of clearer photos of the leather tabs attached to the frame Rear And two showing the front tabs, left and right. And very faded markings on mine, which has been used and abused during its lifetime. Edited January 14 by rpbcps Typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Since the label on ppgcowboy’s case was printed by IH, I suspect that is why they listed their own halftrack. The key number is the military code of D50268, which connects back to the drawings of this case, and would be the same no matter what vehicle it was listed for. My two cents… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I have never seen an original case with a brass ripper, has anyone else seen or have an original case with the brass ripper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 7 hours ago, TSMG28 said: Since the label on ppgcowboy’s case was printed by IH, I suspect that is why they listed their own halftrack. The key number is the military code of D50268, which connects back to the drawings of this case, and would be the same no matter what vehicle it was listed for. My two cents… My guess is that it is considered an ordnance part and so it doesn't actually have a g number as opposed to being considered a vehicle part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 7 hours ago, Orion said: I have never seen an original case with a brass ripper, has anyone else seen or have an original case with the brass ripper? I think whatever it is, it gives off a greenish tarnish. Most of the metal parts on most canvas webbing seem to do this. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 18 hours ago, ppgcowboy said: I think whatever it is, it gives off a greenish tarnish. Most of the metal parts on most canvas webbing seem to do this. I Any tips for cleaning off the green tarnish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, rpbcps said: Any tips for cleaning off the green tarnish? If it’s verdigris (oxidation on brass) usually in contact with leather, you can use a mild acid like lemon juice or vinegar and carefully clean it away. Cotton swabs and being careful not to get the juice all over, basically spot cleaning. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, ron_brock said: If it’s verdigris (oxidation on brass) usually in contact with leather, you can use a mild acid like lemon juice or vinegar and carefully clean it away. Cotton swabs and being careful not to get the juice all over, basically spot cleaning. Ron Cheers Ron, I'll give the Lemon juice tip a try, when I have some free time. Stay safe Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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