Mattg203 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Hey I have a friend selling a Reising and it looks really good with lots of mags. I don’t know anything about them. Any input on value and condition and year would be helpful. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 The S- prefix on the S/N indicated it was assembled by Numrich in 198(7?) out of parts that they acquired from H&Rs closing. I can't see the sights or the barrel but the trigger guard, mag release, taskedown screw and selector lever all appear to be correct for a Numrich gun. Those two 20 round mags are worth their weight in gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattg203 Posted January 16 Author Report Share Posted January 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, StrangeRanger said: The S- prefix on the S/N indicated it was assembled by Numrich in 198(7?) out of parts that they acquired from H&Rs closing. I can't see the sights or the barrel but the trigger guard, mag release, taskedown screw and selector lever all appear to be correct for a Numrich gun. Those two 20 round mags are worth their weight in gold What do you think the value of this is with all the mags? thanks Edited January 16 by Mattg203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 (edited) In todays market, $8500-$9000 with the 5 extra mags. The 12 round mags are not really that desirable although they still sell for $125-$150 each. The gun only would probably fetch around $8000. Edited January 16 by tommyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 So is the information in Frank Iannamico book stating that the S prefix guns were produced in 1957 is incorrect and none of the guns were completely assembled in 1957? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Don't know about Frank's book. My copy went with my Reising when I sold it Small Arms Review says Numrich acquired H&R's inventory in 1986 https://smallarmsreview.com/the-u-s-45-model-50-and-55-reising-submachine-gun-and-model-60-semiautomatic-rifle/ FWIW Wikipedia agrees but I would never accept Wiki's word for it without independent confirmation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Reising (last paragraph) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I. Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I have documentation from H&R verifying that Reising submachine guns with an S serial number prefix were manufactured by H&R in 1957. In addition, there were six S-prefixed serial number Reisings (S4855, S4948, S5017, S4764 S5100, S5102) sold at H&R's 1985 asset reduction sale approved by the bankruptcy court. Despite popular internet lore, there was no bankruptcy auction. The asset reduction (gun) sale was approved so H&R could keep its factory operating. In addition to the Reisings, there were 29 H&R M14s, and 60 U.S. marked H&R M16A1s. There is a lot of H&R history in my 2nd edition M14 book. After H&R went out of business, Numrich bought Reising parts and they did assemble guns from those parts, which did include receivers. A 1988 SGN ad listed them for $695.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Frank, thank you for clarifying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Frank, is there any documentation on how many Reising model 50's or model 50's receivers were sold to Numrich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank I. Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 No, I don't have that info... BUT H&R Sale M55s 1A, 0001, 114310, M50s: 206, 654, S4855, S4948, S5017, S4764 S5100, S5102, X17, (.45) X15 (9MM) M65 X16 Reising Submachine Gun Dates of Production From records submitted to ATF 1941 Serial Numbers: 101-8500 1942 Serial Numbers: 8501-73600 1943 Serial Numbers: 73601-114317 1950 Serial Numbers: K101 to K973 1951 Serial Numbers: L101 to L3589 1952: No production 1953 Serial Numbers: N111 to N327 1954-1956: No production 1957 Serial Numbers: S4700 to S5607 Former Marine Reisings in storage at the Quantico Marine base (2019) MODEL 50: 154 11372 15696 53097 113539 MODEL 55: 13189 15296 44531 62230 62934 62818 Model 60: 1333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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