Skip Greenwade Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) Hello All, My first post on this Forum (re: picking up a Thompson SMG): was so successful that I'm back for more. This time around I'm in the hunt for a nice representative example of a World War Two MP-40 and - as was the case with my Thompson purchase - I would greatly appreciate your input. I'd like a C&R eligible (transferable directly to me) example that I can put an occasional magazine through. While an all numbers-matching numbers piece would be optimal, my understanding is that those are not often found - even in the case of WW2 bring-backs - so I will likely have to relax my expectations a bit. To start the conversation and to establish a frame of reference, what are your collective thoughts on this one with respect to price, condition and collectability: https://chestercountyarmory.com/product/original-wwii-german-mp40-erma-1943-9x19mm-transferable-submachine-gun-cr-eligible/ Naturally, if anyone has - or knows of - a nice MP-40 for sale, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and input, Skip Edited February 8 by Skip Greenwade Punctuation error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) Hey, Skip! Good luck in your quest. You'll find what you want but it may take some time. I'd pass on the example linked in your post unless a mismatched, refinished gun would be acceptable. These were originally hot dip blued, which was not a durable finish. A gun with handling rash should have a noticeably thin finish, missing almost entirely at the gripping areas. The asking price would be appropriate maybe for an original, all-matching, excellent condition example. JMHO Edited February 8 by TSMGguy correct spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker402 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) That particular MP40 has been refinished, if that has any bearing to you and it’s mostly non-matching. It’s priced too high for such an example. I would value that particular one just a little above a Wilson tube MP40. Yes, it’s a “C&R” but it’s an MP40 salad, of sorts…cobbled together from parts. I would try looking for a private deal…you have the potential to cut out the dealers and save good money. Good luck in your search...just hope your search doesn't fall on a couple I'm currently looking at....lol. Edited February 9 by Husker402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted February 10 Author Report Share Posted February 10 Thank you for your responses and insight...I will definitely pass on that one! Exactly the type of information I need to make an informed decision. I ordered the book "Blitzkrieg: The MP40 Maschinenpistol of World War 2" and am expecting it today; hoping that will help expand my knowledge of the different variations, etc. Thanks again, Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 21 hours ago, Skip Greenwade said: ...I ordered the book "Blitzkrieg: The MP40 Maschinenpistol of World War 2" and am expecting it today; hoping that will help expand my knowledge of the different variations, etc. Good move! You'll find it to be very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterdawg2004 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 For prices try this, seems to be accurate, I have been following for 10 years. http://www.machinegunpriceguide.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 Waterdawg, thank you for that! very interesting and useful information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted February 27 Author Report Share Posted February 27 Update on the MP40 hunt. I had a Forum Member reach out to me re: a very nice MP40 he had for sale. We made a deal and e-Filed the Form 4 this morning. Waiting for approval and will post pics when I have it safely back home. Thanks to everyone for the information and encouragement here on this thread and in your PMs Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 On 2/7/2026 at 7:51 PM, Skip Greenwade said: Hello All, My first post on this Forum (re: picking up a Thompson SMG): was so successful that I'm back for more. This time around I'm in the hunt for a nice representative example of a World War Two MP-40 and - as was the case with my Thompson purchase - I would greatly appreciate your input. I'd like a C&R eligible (transferable directly to me) example that I can put an occasional magazine through. While an all numbers-matching numbers piece would be optimal, my understanding is that those are not often found - even in the case of WW2 bring-backs - so I will likely have to relax my expectations a bit. To start the conversation and to establish a frame of reference, what are your collective thoughts on this one with respect to price, condition and collectability: https://chestercountyarmory.com/product/original-wwii-german-mp40-erma-1943-9x19mm-transferable-submachine-gun-cr-eligible/ Naturally, if anyone has - or knows of - a nice MP-40 for sale, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and input, Skip There are plenty of C&R numbers matching guns out there. The Nederlander registry has quite a few, one of which is mine (BNZ 41, #1159). If you are collecting, spend the $ and get a matching gun. PM me your email, the registry is 19 pages long...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker402 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 (edited) On 2/27/2026 at 8:12 PM, Skip Greenwade said: Update on the MP40 hunt. I had a Forum Member reach out to me re: a very nice MP40 he had for sale. We made a deal and e-Filed the Form 4 this morning. Congratulations Skip. Did you end up getting it for less money than the one offered on Chester County Armory? Edited March 2 by Husker402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/2/2026 at 7:18 AM, Husker402 said: Congratulations Skip. Did you end up getting it for less money than the one offered on Chester County Armory? Thank you and, yes, the one I bought clocked in at considerably less money than the Chester County gun and much less than the one I was following in Poulin's auction! Pics coming once I have it safely back home. Skip Edited March 3 by Skip Greenwade Additional information to share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) If you bought the MP40 from NFA Sales, I examined that gun in person and can tell you it is a nice gun. Edited March 3 by tommyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker402 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Anything on Poulin's or Morphy's really shouldn't be used to bench marked prices on. Any private deal you aren't paying a 20+% premium or sales tax. I take it you got into yours for about $25k and it's a C&R! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 22 hours ago, tommyboy said: If you bought the MP40 from NFA Sales, I examined that gun in person and can tell you it is a nice gun. I checked the NFA Sales site repeatedly and didn’t see one listed. I e-mailed Ruben Mendiola to see if he might have on incoming, but didn’t hear back from him. The one I ended up getting is coming from a Class 3 Dealer and Forum Member here. I‘ll share pics & more of the story once the ATF approves the transfer and I have it back home. Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, Husker402 said: Anything on Poulin's or Morphy's really shouldn't be used to bench marked prices on. Any private deal you aren't paying a 20+% premium or sales tax. I take it you got into yours for about $25k and it's a C&R! Very close, I can tell you the one I bought was less than the Poulin‘s gun (Lot #1009) before the addition of the Buyer’s Premium, taxes, and shipping. It is indeed a C&R gun, so I can take possession directly from the seller/dealer once the transfer is approved Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Every gun finds its owner! Congratulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 UPDATE...Without going into a great deal of detail (the "why" is irrelevant, IMO) and giving major props to the intended Seller for the ultra-professional way he handled the entire process/transaction, I am back in the hunt for an MP40. Any and all leads appreciated...the particulars are: Original finish All matching numbers (will consider 'mostly-matching' so long as the major components match) C&R transferable Amnesty registered with the paperwork would be a big plus I realize that sets the bar pretty high, but I only plan to own one representative example and figure the re-set with the one I was planning to purchase happened for a reason... Thanks to everyone who has reached out here and on the Sturmgewehr forum for their advice and encouragement! Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker402 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 PM sent regarding that MP40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted June 10 Author Report Share Posted June 10 Good afternoon all, I am finally in shape to provide an update with a very happy ending! I didn't want to jinx another pending deal, so I waited until I had the new gun safely in hand to post anything further and today's the day. After the first deal fell through, I was made aware of a very nice bnz 42 example being offered by an old-school dealer in Vermont. It was everything I was looking for, but there were two other guys in line ahead of me. Luckily, both elected to pass...I didn't! We agreed on a price, made the deal, and initiated the Form 4 approval process. ATF received the printed Form 4 on 09 April and approved it on 04 May (26 days - not bad for a hardcopy Form 4 and 'snail mail'). The seller received the approved Form 4 on 20 May and shipped the gun on the 26th. He put my GPS tracker in the box so I could monitor it's progress (or lack thereof) on my phone. All went well until it arrived at the black hole known as the North Houston Distribution Center, which is the stuff of legend, and not in a good way. It spent 6 days moving around in the facility (picture the warehouse scene at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark") and then showed up at my local P.O. this morning. Suffice it to say it was worth the second effort & the wait and is a welcome addition to my collection. Thanks to everyone for the leads, tips, and encouragement! Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Very nice acquisition indeed! That’s a great serial number too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Greenwade Posted June 11 Author Report Share Posted June 11 3 hours ago, tommyboy said: Very nice acquisition indeed! That’s a great serial number too! Agreed...I would have thought they might put zeros in front of it, i.e., "0002e" Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip944 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Congrats, Skip!! That is a very nice one!! It seems like all of your troubles and the wait was worth it. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip944 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 And, yes….such a cool serial number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 I have a little history on your MP40 you may or may not know. Send me a private message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 (edited) Looking good! Congratulations! Just a note about ammo selection. Unless the gun has had springs replaced, it'll prefer any good 124 gr. NATO M882, or equivalent. That's a 124 gr, +P loading. Lighter loads (like Winchester 115 gr. "white box") can produce a slow rate of fire, short stroking, and failures. With short stroking, the bolt may not even engage the buffer spring. Winchester 9mm NATO 124 gr. FMJ is just about perfect and is widely available. The first time I fired my own un-messed with bnz 41 MP40, I tried white box 115 gr. and had the problems mentioned. I thought, 'This thing's going to need some work'. Fortunately, the shooter in the lane next to mine saw the problem and slid me a box of WCC M882. The gun ran like a top. Problem solved! Just for grins and giggles one time I tried some 90 gr. Norma factory loads. The bolt wouldn't even engage the sear. The gun just went put-put-put until it was empty, regardless of what I did with the trigger. FWIW Edited June 11 by TSMGguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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