Rekraps Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Several other threads have discussed individual states proposing to sell SMG's, and the idea of a possible second ATF Amnesty. The ATF still has two Amnesty Period options left at their disposal. I believe that the issue is in one sense political (how the Dems will wail) and more importantly what guns would be covered by the Amnesty. Now that most WW2 vets are no longer here, and Korean / Vietnam vets are passing, families are finding these un-registered guns in attics and basements and don't know what to do. I believe there are a substantial number of guns out there. From the Government's side, another general amnesty is troublesome as there are tons of kits out there that would be hastily manufactured and registered, modern weapons that clearly do not fall into the spirit of Amnesty and more. At the same time, getting what I believe to be a substantial number of non-declared guns into the registry means they won't end up on the street. I've thought about this over the years and believe that if the ATF were to offer Amnesty II, it would work only if it included US guns produced prior to the Vietnam conflict date and foreign guns through the end of the Vietnam conflict. Clearly excluded would be all M16/M14 platforms and other modern US guns. In addition, to reduce the chance that surplus foreign kits would be hastily assembled into MG's, all foreign and qualified US guns would have to have original receivers (absolutely NO rewelds or over-stamps of any type) and be substantially SN matching guns. So, all WW2 and Korean War guns, US or otherwise would be eligible as long as they were essentially SN matching. Moving into the Vietnam war era, Thompsons, M3's, MAT 49's, KM50's, PPSH's, M45's and early version AK's would make the cut. M16's and M14's would not as they were and are US property guns. The ATF would have the obligation and right to examine any particular gun where the provenance was in question or the gun did not fit the amnesty guidelines. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNGUY45 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 I thought the '68 law allowed amnesty, BUT the '86 law didn't provide for one, & it closed the registry. So, NO more additions. Is that not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hammer Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Your getting all worked up about something that will never happen. Once the government takes away freedoms, you never get them back. Change will only occur from a refusal to obey, supported by violence if necessary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68coupe Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 35 minutes ago, Mike Hammer said: Your getting all worked up about something that will never happen. Once the government takes away freedoms, you never get them back. Change will only occur from a refusal to obey, supported by violence if necessary. Not so fast. While it's mostly true, ATF did a revue and decided to flip a few more law enforcement samples in the registry. I don't know or understand all the details, but it was discussed at length in several forums. It's all well above my pay grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted March 7 Author Report Share Posted March 7 On 3/6/2026 at 9:21 AM, 68coupe said: Not so fast. While it's mostly true, ATF did a revue and decided to flip a few more law enforcement samples in the registry. I don't know or understand all the details, but it was discussed at length in several forums. It's all well above my pay grade. Great note. So..... it is possible. justy speculating how it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APEXgunparts Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 There was a meeting for members of the F.A.I.R. Trade group with the ATF senior staff ( with their senior legal counsel in attendance ) at the Shot Show. The ATF amnesty was brought up by someone very well versed in the matter. The question was well stated, and unlike every other topic presented, the ATF side stepped on the answer. Everything else that was asked and concerned changes to the law we were told to watch the federal register and comment accordingly. We were NOT given that answer about another amnesty. Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted March 11 Author Report Share Posted March 11 On 3/8/2026 at 9:11 PM, APEXgunparts said: There was a meeting for members of the F.A.I.R. Trade group with the ATF senior staff ( with their senior legal counsel in attendance ) at the Shot Show. The ATF amnesty was brought up by someone very well versed in the matter. The question was well stated, and unlike every other topic presented, the ATF side stepped on the answer. Everything else that was asked and concerned changes to the law we were told to watch the federal register and comment accordingly. We were NOT given that answer about another amnesty. Richard So there you have it. Given the initial post above I can see why. But then again, in the long run, registering what may be the last "batch" of hidden or unregistered SMG's would be a good thing for the ATF, the police and the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) On 3/8/2026 at 8:11 PM, APEXgunparts said: There was a meeting for members of the F.A.I.R. Trade group with the ATF senior staff ( with their senior legal counsel in attendance ) at the Shot Show. The ATF amnesty was brought up by someone very well versed in the matter. The question was well stated, and unlike every other topic presented, the ATF side stepped on the answer. Everything else that was asked and concerned changes to the law we were told to watch the federal register and comment accordingly. We were NOT given that answer about another amnesty. Richard I did send a message on a social media platform a few months back at AAG Dhillon proposing that the admin should do another ATF amnesty. She actually "liked" my message. We will see but I hope and pray it happens simply for the sake of historical guns. I would think if any big ATF regulatory changes were to occur it would happen after the new ATF director gets confirmed. As we all know the feds take forever to move on anything especially when its in our favor Edited March 25 by thompsonteenager mistype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 9 hours ago, thompsonteenager said: I did send a message on a social media platform a few months back at AAG Dhillon proposing that the admin should do another ATF amnesty. She actually "liked" my message. We will see but I hope and pray it happens simply for the sake of historical guns. I would think if any big ATF regulatory changes were to occur it would happen after the new ATF director gets confirmed. As we all know the feds take forever to move on anything especially when its in our favor You are 100% correct. My idea was simply the preservation of historical SMG's that we all know are out there... the biggest enforcement challenge will be how to keep the samples & kit jobs, etc. off the amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 On 3/25/2026 at 6:22 AM, Rekraps said: You are 100% correct. My idea was simply the preservation of historical SMG's that we all know are out there... the biggest enforcement challenge will be how to keep the samples & kit jobs, etc. off the amnesty. Another reason why they wouldn't announce it early would be so people cant make things in anticipation of an amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted March 28 Author Report Share Posted March 28 On 3/27/2026 at 3:07 PM, thompsonteenager said: Another reason why they wouldn't announce it early would be so people cant make things in anticipation of an amnesty. Correct. Plus, this time around, no "tubes" to register.. just pre-1975 guns (foreign) and pre-1962 guns (american), per the description of how I would manage this process, outlined above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Rekraps said: Correct. Plus, this time around, no "tubes" to register.. just pre-1975 guns (foreign) and pre-1962 guns (american), per the description of how I would manage this process, outlined above. My opinion is anything pre 76 (C&R cutoff) should be allowed regardless when it comes to MGs. Just to make it cleaner. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Unfortunately, we probably have a better chance of finding one of Santa Claus' elves at the North Pole than we do of seeing another amnesty. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 They added a couple hundred Colt m16s to the registry for mr. keisayian 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyDixon Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 years ago i asked an atf agent his thoughts on another ammensty, he said it would mess up a lot of ongowing investigations, guys would say in court that they were going to register it in the next ammisty, and perhaps jury would buy that !, interesting thought, just sayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted April 7 Author Report Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2026 at 5:39 PM, huggytree said: They added a couple hundred Colt m16s to the registry for mr. keisayian 10 years ago They did and I own two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2026 at 4:39 PM, huggytree said: They added a couple hundred Colt m16s to the registry for mr. keisayian 10 years ago What's the story on that? I was only 12 then, so I wouldn't be versed in NFA lore yet haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonteenager Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 16 hours ago, BillyDixon said: years ago i asked an atf agent his thoughts on another ammensty, he said it would mess up a lot of ongowing investigations, guys would say in court that they were going to register it in the next ammisty, and perhaps jury would buy that !, interesting thought, just sayn That's what the ATF says in one of their documents also. It doesn't mean someone cant make them change their mind thats higher up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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