unklefunk Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 hi im new to all this and was just wondering what a c&r sten gun is. seen it mentioned a lot http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 QUOTE (unklefunk @ Dec 26 2004, 02:54 PM)hi im new to all this and was just wondering what a c&r sten gun is. seen it mentioned a lot http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif "C&R" would indicate the gun is registered as a "Curio & Relic". In order for it to be such it has to be original production. Not a tube gun etc. C&R weapons are more expensive as there are not as many around. They also many times have a historical association - WWII for example in the case of a C&R Sten. Tube means the original receiver, in the case of a Sten - a tube, was destroyed and a "new" replacement tube was used to put the gun back on operating condition. ATF considers the receiver of a gun to be the gun. The receiver of a Sten is a tube - hence the "tube gun" is a new gun - not a "C&R" (curio and relic) gun. Another reason C&R guns are more expensive is because some states only allow C&R machineguns. There are some exceptions in some of these states for people who hold special licenses etc. Hope this has been of some help. Regards, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unklefunk Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) certainly has steve, my grandfather served in the gloucester regiment of the british army during wwII, i have all his equipment tunic ,medals ,badges etc and a sten gun (which has now been deactivated) it saw a lot of action especially d day & normandy from what he told me and shows the signs of war. unfortunately under british law due to it being an smg ,to keep it in the house i had to have it de activated.... it had a rod welded down the barrel and also a pin of some sort to stop a round being chambered, also some of the block has been machined away.....but im working on a way to get it "going" again http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Edited December 27, 2004 by unklefunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 You certainly have a wonderful collection of things from your grandfather! Are you allowed to reactivate the gun? I assume you are in the UK correct? Glad I was of some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unklefunk Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 yea im in the uk. I.m not really allowed to re activate the gun as by british law automatic weapons are banned. the only reason i would like to reactivate it is so that it becomes authentic again, as in it fully strips etc , because due to the de activation i can no longer remove the barrel (by the way do you need a special tool to remove it? or should it just unscrew?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATHFINDER Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 In America it unlawful for anyone to give advice, drawings, books or any help in the conversion or http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif restoration of any weapon or collection of parts to full automatic fire. This 'restoration' would also squarely place you in violation of your own countries laws. This would be aiding and abeting or conspiracy to commit. Any way, both are bad for both parties. Since most of us are in America it would be less than ethical for us to assist you in you endevour. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif Try voting to get your countries laws changed so you can do this work legally. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/dry.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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