Ron A Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Without going into details, I have know these people for over 35 years - have seen familys torn apart, many of their people arrested and have suffered losses far greater than a drum that is junk. Just look at the history of this cult and ask yourself - do they care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Bastards Yeah, just felt like saying it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 QUOTE (LIONHART @ Jan 22 2005, 04:22 PM) Bastards Yeah, just felt like saying it again! I am starting to think F***ing Bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'll see if my buddy has one left and take a picture of it. It looked like they tack welded a copper lip on the lower half. You could see the tack welds on it. And it was bright and shiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglewalk Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/huh.gif The two drums I ordered the night of the end of the ban,(13Sep), have worked well. Other than putting a file to the finger edges, I have only lubed them a little..............The one drum from the group buy, I have done the same too, and will test fire it tomorrow or monday. This one, as the other two, I manually functioned it, with ammo, to detect any function flaws. The finger edges seem to be the only thing that cause problems, & the wheel needs some lubing...... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif I do have two 10 round Kahr drums, that are now, a 30 rounder and a 45 rounder that run fine. Of course, they were converted after 13 Sep, http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif , and I hated to just let them remain 10rounders..... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif jw (no copper on any of the 3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427sohc Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 i know the drum i got from the group buy now has over 800 rounds through it and not one problem.not one.and i shot it as fast as i could pull the trigger.i dont know how it would work on full auto.also the finish dosent look to bad.i hope you other guys get better drums back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksnest Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 PhilOhio: You may have stumbled onto another Thompson collecting frenzie! While some people collect every model of WWII drum and others collect the Colt variants, your comments on the Kahr drums opens to yet another path on collecting. Just think how proud the owner would be as he (or she) points with pride at the Kahr drum collection. "This one worked right out of the box", http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif "This one worked after sending to Merle", http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif "This one could not be fixed", http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif and finally, "This one is the barfola drum". http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglewalk Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Today at Knob Creek, used the 50 rd drum from the group buy; used it 4 times, with 50 rds each time; it went like a dream. ..... So this is my 3rd post ban Kahr drum, that works magnificiently !!....Again, I filed the fingers, lubed it, and manually functioned it before going to the range. I must be lucky..........jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Received my group buy drum today. Like some of you other guys, the mag catch doesn't engage very well and drum slides right through. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif Finish is very thin in a couple of places. I was curious about the weight compared to my Bridgeport drum and found (not surprisingly) that the Kahr weighs 4 oz. less. I'm not going to bother inspecting it further. Going back to Kahr. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 I just finished making arraighnments to return my drum to Kahr. I explained the problem and the gentleman seemed very sympathetic. I mentioned this forum to him and he said that he had not heard of it but was going to look in on us. Perhaps we can open a dialog with Kahr and improve things for all involved. If he happens to post lets not all jump on him at once, don't want to scare him off. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZLP Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 When I got my first Kahr drum it didn't function worth a crap. I fired 300 rounds through it and not once did it run through an entire 50 rounds without a cartridge hanging up and jamming in the feed lips. It was also VERY loose in the gun. Way too much play. I emailed the Kahr people and told them that this was unacceptable to pay so much money for something that doesn't work. The lady I spoke to agreed with me and said if I returned it to them, they would send me one that had been tested at the factory. I don't know if they actually tested it at the factory or not, but the new one I recieved functions flawlessly. Not a hiccup after several hundred rounds. Just my 2 cents. ZLP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvmain Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Got my group buy "L" drum last friday. Rotor dragged heavily on the cartridge spiral, there were several tight spots in the spiral that would stop cartridge movement and the cartridges would arrive at the top opening in a "nose down" attitude that prevented them from exiting the drum. Called Kahr, and following their instructions, sent it back to them for replacement. I have a serial numbered Colt drum for comparison and unfortunately, at least functionally, there is no comparison. If I get a reliable Kahr, I' ll retire the Colt to display duty only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crow Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 You may just want to hang on to your Kahr drums, or get them replaced fast. If, and when new legislation goes through, you will be glad that you did. Hopefully the new C's will come out prior to any bans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Sergeant Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Got mine Tuesday and returned it today. After reading all the posts I knew what to look for and most of what has been written appeared on mine. Actually, it locked up on the WH28 but was very loose. It failed to lock up on the others. I did try cycling dummy rounds thru and they, surprisingly, cycled fine. Dottie, at Kahr, sent me instructions on how to send it back (508-795-3919, Ext. 331). Make sure you ask about their account number for UPS shipping, won't cost you anything to ship it back. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisley45 Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 still waiting for mine, the wait for big brown is killing me. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE (Lancer @ Jan 19 2005, 12:41 PM) I found this on the links page at the Kahr Arms website. Speaks volumes. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif "Drum Doctor E-mail link for Thompson drum magazine repairs. Contact person: Merle Bitikofer" http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_links.html Yeah, it says volumes.... that they can't fix their own mistakes. or they want you to pay for their mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDoug Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 talked to Tom(?) wada at SHOT,and looked at the latest (as in this year, 2005) production L drum a couple days ago. Showed me a few mods they made on the hanger rails and other stuff for the latest production batch, supposed to cure some problems. Asked about function in FA and he said the drum wasn't designed to function in FA--only on the 1927, but if I had any problems when i got my drum, to send it back for repair. i did notice the drum body was a lot straighter and with more sharply defined corners and flatter face panels than my circa 1990 Valentine products drum. The bummer part of it was, had they taken a tad more time, (and it would not have cost then more that a few hundred $$, up front one time), they could have made the hanger plate spot welds just like the original welds, all they needed was an original drum to measure, and the desire to make it look the same, instead of guessing where the spot welds should be. Visually, the spot welds look cheesy, can't explain it, but they do--like a taiwanese sheetmetal robo-flyer cereal box kids toy type spot weld. Not large diametr and beefy like the originals. But what the heck, mine I have on order, will run, or it won't, and it can always be made to run. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Maybe the latest chages are what caused the price increase. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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