cavediver Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I found an individual that has a very nice M1A1 and a Nickle plated M3 Grease Gun. I know the market price for the M1A1 but dont have a clue what the M3 is worth. It is a very nice Nickle plate job. I need to know what to offer and should I have the nickle removed and parkerized. Both guns have some documented History of being used by the police during some significant events in the 1960's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 If this were mine, without a doubt, the nickle plating would have to go. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philasteen Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Grease gun prices are through the roof lately. Definitely have that nickel plate stripped and redone properly. I would guess 12-15K on the M3A1. A hair more on the M1A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Who could strip the gun and do the correct finish. Is that something PK and do or who do i need to talk to and what would it cost roughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 The nickel job on the "Greaser" would surely impact the value of the weapon. There are enough of them on the market to eschew this "El Presidente" version. But since you were not after an M3 in original finish, and since the original finish is long gone and cannot be retrieved, you might as well save some dough and leave it as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Arthur, You are right and that may be what I do. I cant imagine why anyone would wany to nickle plate any gun especially a SMG. I guess the guy that owned it had a big ego and was involved with some very ignorant and racist people in the early 1960's, so maybe it was a status symbol to have a Nickle plated SMG and a big plug to tobacco. The gun does havean interesting history so maybe I'll just leave it as is. Maybe when at the range I could wear a Panama hat. You seem to be on top of things so with a documented history of the gun being involved in a nefarious history should I leave alone. Thanks Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_Joe Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hey rich stupid people abound.. look at Saddam's gold-plated AK's... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 One other question is can the M3 be restored to the correct finish if all the markings are sharp. And cost to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I would rather have the correct finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNKen Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Now wait a minute. I'm pretty sure or so I've been told that the nickle M3 belonged to Patton or McArthur didn't it? :-) Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in VA Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 You can likely have the nickel plating removed through electrolytic process (and thus no buffing out any remaining markings!) IIRC, doesn't Brownell's sell a nickel removing solution too? (I'm too lazy to dig my Brownell's catalogue out from downstairs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNKen Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Arizona Response Systems charges $30 in conjunction with a refinish to remove nickel. Check out the language under finishes. http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/ Might be worth $30 to avoid the hassle and have the liability shifted elsewhere. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Is it an M3 or M3A1? There is value difference of at least 3k between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supershooter Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 You don't say! Which is worth more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philasteen Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Transferable M3s are harder to find than M3A1s and are worth more. Far fewer M3s made then M3A1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 The friend offered them to me for 10K for the pair. Sent him a check this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_Joe Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS !!! 10K for BOTH !!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 QUOTE (philasteen @ Feb 24 2005, 10:27 AM)Transferable M3s are harder to find than M3A1s and are worth more. Far fewer M3s made then M3A1s. I think it's the other way around. According to Frank's grease gun book the Guide Lamp A1 models only number around 15 thousand by the time the war ended. Production started up again after Korea by Ithaca to replenish depleted stocks Most of the A1's stayed in inventory while some of the M3 models went out surplus to law enforcement agencies. I sold this M3 for 12k last summer. http://www.hunt101.com/img/181077.JPG They look cool with a suppressor! http://www.hunt101.com/img/194706.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Who made the supressor. The gun I think is a M3, dosent the A1 have a hole in the bolt for cocking and the M3 has a cocking knob. Or am I totall wrong. I hope to see the guns again next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNKen Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Cool beans!!!!! Expect to get flamed for getting a good deal. Just kidding. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_Joe Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Flamed?? Hell no .. I just want the phone number of his friend so I can ask if he's got anything else.... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 QUOTE (cavediver @ Feb 25 2005, 08:40 PM) Who made the supressor. The gun I think is a M3, dosent the A1 have a hole in the bolt for cocking and the M3 has a cocking knob. Or am I totall wrong. I hope to see the guns again next week. TL Guns made the suppressor, they are no longer in business. It works excellent and unlike some of the other Grease Gun cans out there it can be dissassembled for cleaning. It is also a few inches shorter than the other silencers I've seen. You are totally right, the M3 has a bolt cocking handle. The M3A1 version does not, you must use your finger or thumb to cock the weapon. You won't get your "cocking finger" dirty with powder residue with the M3 model! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Jim, Thanks for the info. I think the gun i am getting is an M3. I cant wait to see it and get the paperwork going. I am going to start shopping for a supressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavediver Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I confirmed that the M3 has a cocking lever so it is the M3 version and not the M3A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATHFINDER Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 QUOTE (cavediver @ Feb 26 2005, 02:03 PM) I am going to start shopping for a supressor. Cavediver, There is one built by Armitage International LTD on Sub Guns right now. Supressed barrel for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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